Rough Week Survival - The Ultimatim
Hi Folks and Happy Monday!
Well, this is a new one... curious what you all think. Some of you guys know my background. I am a SM42 to SS21. I have been with my DH for 8 years and married for 5. My husband is a wonderful, caring, though sometimes not ideally responsible man. We have had VERY trying times around the financial support of my SS21. We have fallen occasionally on some trying financial times and the only contention in our marriage has been the appropriation of funds between the household, retirement savings, and "gifts" (including 3 years of college tuition) for his son.
I see absolutely no harm in helping SS21 "launch" however my husband never saved for it (and I mean more than $100 over the course of SS21's life). Very recently I took over the finances, am handling the bills are we getting much closer to where we need to be for security and retirement. SS21 started his first full time summer job this morning in a field that he's interested in making great money. If he likes it and does a good job he very well could carry it over into his last year and college and potentially beyond. I landed him the interview to assist in his "launch" but he secured the job on his own.
On Thursday my husband I had a heated (but mostly civil) discussion about a plan to discontinue paying off the kid's credit card and cell phone. Frankly, I expected my husband do dig his heels in yet again and suggest we continue paying. I was getting increasingly angry and was afraid that I was going to say something I shouldn't so I checked myself into the spa overnight. I let my husband know that I wouldn't be home. Because I wanted *someone* to know where I was and didn't care to air our fight to anyone so I told my Dad (with whom I have been close and generally has been a good sounding board on this and many other life topics). I wasn't dramatic but called him to know my husband and I had had words and I was "taking a break" for the night but wanted him to know I was safe (we usually talk at least a few times a week).
For background just on the last few days... it's been a rough one. I lost my 12yo cat (just walked in and found him dead which was horrifying), took him with my husband to the vet to be cremated and spent a few very hurtful days mourning his death.
To my delight when I calmed down and spoke with my husband on Friday he had spoken to his son about the money "plan", they agreed he'll be self-sustaining at the end of June. I was thrilled!
I called my Dad to let him know that I was home safely and it went to voicemail (no big deal... I left a message). Saturday afternoon my husband and I went to pick out a darling new kitten which was exciting and is really helping get over the loss of the other one. I hadn't been taking it very well.
As with most major (and minor) life decisions I called Dad a couple more times over the weekend to share the news of the kitten (I was excited!) I didn't hear back from him for over almost 2 days so I finally texted my SS because I was truly concerned that something tragic had happened to my Dad or Step Mother. My SS (with whom I was once very close but not lately (and not for any real reason except geography and very different life choices)) texted back she had talked to her Mom Sunday morning. I responded with "cool, at least I know they are okay".
Seemingly out of the blue last night I got a very disturbing email from my Dad (he's not an email person at all). In a nutshell it basically read:
1) You know I don't like your husband.
2) You've been having problems for years (we have but not really much more than most couples and a lot less lately with the resolution of the finance issue with the kid).
3) Your husband is using you as a meal ticket to pay for his lifestyle and his kid's education.
4) You keep wanting him to save for retirement because you won't admit to yourself you ARE his retirement.
and finally 5) I don't want to talk to you anymore.
I READ THIS IN ABSOLUTE SHOCK... especially because it had already been a rough week and Dad knew that.
I admit to probably sharing TMI with my Dad but as (formerly) one of my best friends it didn't seem like a big deal. I haven't asked him to support me outside of listening, or step in to talk to my husband (when we have arguments or when we're just fine).
I do make quite a bit more money than my husband but I knew that going in to the marriage and he does a lot of things for me that aren't money related that make my life easier including cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping, all the driving, and some "date nights" and trips. Now that the financial situation is well on the path to resolution I was starting to feel we had overcome the only truly dissatisfying part of our marriage. I thought that my Dad would be happy for me but clearly this is not the case.
If he doesn't want to hear about my marriage (good, bad or indifferent) I feel like there were a lot more "polite" ways to go about it. And, discussion of our marriages (mine AND his... he screwed around on my Mom with her best friend and now they are married but whether he's in good times or bad with my SM I have always treated her with kindness and respect... he has threatened to leave her a number of times as well and I have always been supported and/or just kept my mouth shut).
This feels like an ultimatum to me and I am very strongly leaning towards ceasing all communication with him altogether. What is most hurtful I feel like his message was "your husband is only with you because he's using you for money" which I have admittedly felt on occasion but much less frequently/as strongly because we have worked through our issues... I know I can't count on never having disagreements (financial or otherwise) for the rest of our lives but this communication just feels MEAN and meant to hurt me on purpose.
Thoughts from my always trusty and responsive support group, please?
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Cool down. It was a big
Cool down.
It was a big mistake to lay your marriage bare to your dad. His is not your "bff," he is your dad. No more should you be listening to the secrets of his marriage.
Of course your dad has exploded because you have been using him like a girlfriend when he is in fact a man, not a female at all, and the very man who wants to protect you from everything and who is hard-wired to believe no man is good enough for you. You overloaded his circuits with all this talk of your husband draining your resources. That is way too new-fangled an idea for your dad to grok. You activated his Protector button and now he is about to give himself a heart attack from being unable to rescue you. He is doing a good thing by cutting this off.
So cool down for a bit. Kitty will be fine without grampa for awhile. After you are sufficiently cool, several days perhaps, message him back that you understand he is upset for you and you are sorry you have over shared and you won't be doing it any more. Wish him the best and let him know you will be happy when he is ready to re-surface but you are truly sorry for your unwise behavior so you hope he will take all the time he needs.
Condolences on the loss of your pet.
Chief Grown Up... thanks for
Chief Grown Up... thanks for this. You put this in a very good perspective. I've never had a traditional relationship with my Dad as we really didn't get to know each other until my late teens (my Mom moved us back across the country to live with her parents after the affair). We have always treated one another as more of "friends" than a normal Father/Daughter do.
But, this makes a lot of sense. Thank you!
Interesting that you ask
Interesting that you ask that... I've spent the most of the day pretty devastated but I did reach out to my Mom (figuring she knows him as well as anyone) and she said just that... I've never gotten email from him in my LIFE longer than a couple of sentences). My parent's marriage did NOT end amicaably... though it's been 35 years and despite the fact that she has every reason to hate his guts she doesn't spend any energy on him. She said "that doesn't sound like your father".
I think it might be more likely that he's repeating stories to my step mother (I don't try to fool myself by thinking that she LIKES me or anything but she's rarely been downright nasty to me... after all I'm a constant reminder that my Mom (her former best friend) exists as well as a reminder that my life has been wildly more successful that her own children's though I certain don't flaunt that). Even though she's NOT my favorite person I always recognize her birthday and just a couple weeks back sent her a beautiful bouquet of flowers for Step Mother's Day.
She's sick of hearing about me and perhaps even irritated that sometimes my Dad does get upset when my husband and I fight... though what parent wouldn't have empathy for their own child when s/he are hurting? Whether she wrote the message or even if he just walked away from the computer and let her write it he should be responsible, right?
How old is your Dad? Have you
How old is your Dad? Have you noticed any other personality changes? A huge change in attitude can be a sign of the beginnings of dementia.
It seems odd that rather than ask you not talk about your marriage anymore he goes straight to wanting no contact. Could you tell by the writing style or word choice that it might not be him?
I agree that trying to see him in person is a good idea.
pffft your Dad is simply
pffft your Dad is simply trying to support you and he thought he's helping Hon, He wants you to be happy, after years of hearing how DH waste money blablabla , he simply have his own picture in his head about your marriage and you can not blame him.
Now wait a week or so, then call him and talk about everything but your marriage to him, do not even mention the email, regardless who wrote it, out it behind you, tell him about the new kitty..( hugs for the old one passing )
Then after the third call or so slowly start to tell him how much Dh saved up... and that you are financially better off, also tell him how good SS is doing and that he's paying his own bills now... it will take a couple off years to get your Dad turned on DH using you as a meal ticket.
Then never tell your Dad ever again if there's trouble in your marriage, every time my parents ask how SO is doing I say fine, they have no clue about the crap we are going through.... they think he's a wonderful guy with a good daughter... if only they knew