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Missy87's picture

I'm furious. My boyfriends daughter read my journal that had some pretty horrible stuff about them and their mom that I sometimes feel when I'm particularly pissed off or angry and so go and vent, I don't even read it back !!! . However She told her brother, her mum and then it got back to my boyfriend. 

now there is just an almighty shit storm, he's upset and taking their side saying I shouldn't have left it on the side in the living room!!!! He's saying I'm selfish and have only thought about my own feelings, that he is upset and his children are even more upset because that's what they think I feel about them ( which yeah sometimes I do or I wouldn't have written it ) but it's hard to be compassionate when someone has read my most private thoughts.... that was meant to be for my eyes only . 

I feel humiliated and unsafe and I don't Know what to do to make things better. Help! 

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Well, if you left it in a common space, i get him being upset. But - how bad was what you wrote? Was it down and dirty, your worst thoughts vented (name calling, "BM is a sl&tty waste of skin and her kid is ugly and stupid", etc.), or did it talk about behaviors you don't like? If it was the name calling, apologize. If it dealt with how you feel about certain behaviors that you truly believe are wrong, apologize for leaving it out but own the thoughts inside it. These things have been bothering you but you didn't feel empowered to say them out loud and seek resolution. Now, you can.

Also, as far as you leaving it out - did she find it because she was there outside a scheduled time and you weren't notified she was coming? If so, your SO has no room to bitch. 

Missy87's picture

It was both name calling and about their behaviour . I get that I shouldn't have left it in a public place but maybe I was naive and thought that things could be safe in my space without my privacy being intruded on. 
 

I said to my partner that this has been stuff that I have just vented about but yes there is some truth in it , his daughter is a selfish brat that only talks about herself , they do have behaviours that I find really upsetting and over time make me really pissed off and angry and resentful. 

thank you for the advice though this is really helpful actually and it's really good how you have split it up, the name calling being one thing and the things I have talked about being another  . ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Also keep in mind when venting, who raised the little (or big, idk the age) angel? Who taught her how to act and who allows her to act that way. BM can't take all the heat, there are 2 parents. 

CajunMom's picture

And nothing can be done except to let the peices fall where they will. You can try to explain to your BF this was just venting and feelings "in the moment" but depending on what you wrote.....it may not suffice.

Unfortunately, you are going to have to take accountability in this issue. You should NOT have left something so private and confidential just laying around, knowing your BFs kids come to your home. Yes, she should not have read your private journal  but this is the Step world and anything we say/write "negative" about this life MUST be protected by lock and key, alias screen names (as we do on this site) or it WILL come back to bite us. 

I know journaling can be very healing and theraputic....it's one thing I do NOT do because I don't want people "finding" my writings....like what's happened here. So, I just keep my thoughts in my head, with my counselor and with my trusted friends.

Hoping a good outcome for you.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

This site is my journal about this kind of thing. I always make sure to get off it before doing something else. Learned my lesson when my dad read my 9th grade diary. Cringe now even thinking about it! 

Missy87's picture

Thank you , I was stupid to leave it in the living room and I was naive to think it wouldn't be read . In the future I will keep it locked and hidden. 

Survivingstephell's picture

I'd tell him better that I journaled than verbalizing it.  I would hold him to some accountability for raising the little darling.   It's going to be awkward for a bit but hopefully some change will come along soon.  Addressing the reason for the journal in the first place needs to happen.  

Missy87's picture

Yes , I think the lovely person that first commented made things clear for me , the outbursts and the insults are one thing but underlying that are things that actually need to be talked about and discussed . The problem is that I try and talk about it with my partner but like a true bloke he just kind of sweeps it under the carpet and it doesn't go anywhere so it festers inside me and so has to go somewhere , in my journal ! 
I hope that we can all discuss ways to make life easier . It pisses me off because his daughter (18) says how it's much easier with her stepdad but her stepdad doesn't live with her, most of the time when they are together it's because they are going on some far flung holiday. Because he doesn't live with her he doesn't see the day to day shit that happens so it's a COMPLETELY different relationship. She still feels like when she is with her mum she has complete attention from her mom as her stepdad doesn't live there . And when her stepdad does come down she probably feels like he is the guest and it's still her domain. So the situation is entirely different 

Rags's picture

Burn it, and going forward when you start a new journal, keep it in a biolocked drawer safe in your nightstand.

Then stand on "I never said those things about them". You didn't say it, you wrote it.

Play the semantics and going forward keep your journal locked up.

Bad move leaving it out.  

To mitigate the risk even more, just in case you do leave it out, make it a lockable journal with a flap with a lock. Or, must write in cursive since the spawn likely are too stupid to know how to read actual handwriting.

Biggrin

As for your SO, go on the offensive, when he spouts his anger the hurt fee fees of his spawn, restate your position referencing absolute fact and demand that he justify their toxic bullshit because they did those things, you know it, and he knows it.  As for your journal vents about BM, make sure he knows damned good and well that she is the POS you vented to your journal that she is.

If this is a never ending hurt fee fee point, call a locksmith, re-key the locks, put hurt fee fee daddy and his hurt fee fee spawn on the lawn and get on with living YOUR best life.  They can run to mommy's place and comiserate on how hurt their fee fees are. Good riddance if that is what you choose to do. I would btw.  They violated a trust, you didn't.  Your journal is yours. Not theirs. No matter where it is located. Daddy seems to have his head up his ass on that truth.

But, you have learned that your journal is only confidential if you keep it confidential.

Just my thoughts of course.

Winterglow's picture

At 18, she is old enough to understand about privacy and NOT reading other people's private journals. How dare she! Didn't your husband teach her even the most basic decency? Like respecting other people and their belongings? Or not snooping or prying?

Missy87's picture

Yes well he is of the avoidant personality. 
and I have to admit that I have snooped and pryed in the past and found a load of stuff saying how much she hated me and she wished I would fuck off and die ....so I would be a hypocrite but I did think that our relationship had grown since then ... 

Winterglow's picture

Having an avoidant personality does not excuse him from parenting his child.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Oh. She's 18 and has written shitty things about you? Gloves off, then! ETA to me, her age makes it different than if she were, say, 12. You can address her directly if Daddy is too busy kissing her ass to make sure she acts like a decent human. But, as stated before, he is the real problem if he hasn't made her treat you with respect. Just out of curiosity, how did he react when you found what SHE wrote?

ETA again, this guy has 2 adult women seething and writing about each other and he just wrings his hands. Sounds like maybe he is no prize. 

Missy87's picture

She wrote it when she was about 15 and when I found it it didn't kick off HALF as much as it has done now . 
he will always take his kids side even if he thinks that he's being neutral, he just can't do it . He always makes excuses for them . 
 

yes I know, it's pathetic. He refuses to take any responsibility for anything really. 

ESMOD's picture

TBH,  OP has actually intentionally snooped by her own admission in the past.. it sounds like the SD found something that was pretty much left out in a public space.. that she may not have even been "snooping to find".  

The fact that OP found that SD had written venting things about her and found them by snooping in her SD's things.. is IMHO not too much different than what OP did in writing about her SD and BM.  

The problem with these written records is that they bring whatever "hurt" was being experienced right back into the present time... SD might have written something about hating her SM as a petulant 12 year old.. but when OP reads it when the girl is older.. and perhaps their relationship is better.. the hurt is brought right into the present.  and vice versa when the SD reads OP's journals..because if OP was in current times venting about them in ugly terms... then the relationship wasn't as 'past it" as she wants to believe either.

I would actually never put my darkest thoughts down on paper...no way I would risk them seeing the light of day.. it's a risk OP took... and she trippled the risk by leaving such a hot potato out in a public space. 

Unfortunately, this was bound to set back any amount of progress she had made with her SD. 

Both of them wrote negatively about the other.... OP actually intentionally snooped.. SD may have capitalized on the opportunity provided by the public space journal to read as well.. they both got an eyefull and obviously they now know more deeply how each other may have felt at a particular time.. unfortunately.. there may be just spikes of anger at someone.. even someone you care about.. and only seeing the spikes of venting can  make it fell like that is all the person has in their head..

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Oh, I agree, that's why i vent anonymously. With SD being older now, maybe this is a chance to apologize for the "vent" parts and leaving it out and clear the air, woman to woman, since Mr. Disney sounds like he is doing fk-all to manage things at home. But if he won't back OP even a little when it comes to SD, maybe OP can find a relationship where she can talk about her feelings out loud with her partner. 

Missy87's picture

Unfortunately I didn't snoop either, I was cleaning SD'S room and it was on the table entitled 'burn book' looking exactly how it looked on mean girls so I actually picked it up like ha ha that's so cool and didn't even think there would be stuff about me in it and then I was on the front page. So I didn't intentionally snoop either . 
 

yes I am going to talk to my partner tonight but I have full intentions of having a grown up conversation with SD & SS, and I will never be so naive as to leave my journal out again. 

ESMOD's picture

On the privacy scale.. I think in her room vs the living room.. the living room is an obvious public space... even though I do get that "her" room is in "your" home.. I do think people should feel that things in their personal space is"more" private.

BUT.. in the end.. you both gave into the temptation/curiosity to read the other person's personal thoughts.  You both saw things that were obviously hurtful.  She complained to her mom.. and told her what she saw.. I don't even think that's unexpected given what you had written.  

It is what it is at this point.. you can apologize to her for hurting your feelings and that these were not intended to be publicly read.. and that they don't encompass your whole opinion of her.. but if they do.. another poster said "own it".. tell her.. 

yes.. I wrote those things... at times when I was quite hurt and angry.  It was obviously a private journal and you chose to forge forward and read it knowing the kind of things that were in it...Everyone has thoughts and feelings that would not be taken well in the light of day.. but journaling helps me put things in perspactive and behind me.. but they were not intended to hurt you.. or to be read by you.  

Kes's picture

You shouldn't have left your journal in a public space, but neither should your SD have picked it up and read it. These are your private thoughts and not for public consumption - I always kept my journals locked away when the SDs were staying. But hey, novelist Anne Lamott said "you own everything that happened to you. Tell your stories.  If people wanted you to write warmly about them, they should've behaved better." 

Missy87's picture

Yes I was naïve to leave it lying around and think that it wouldn't be read. This quote is great. The feelings are there for a reason, just packaged up in a way that is angry and venting but like you say, it's my journal for my private thoughts ! 

Dahlia8448's picture

Nothing good has ever come of prying into someone's journal. Your thoughts may have been written in anger, but there is still honesty there. Many years ago I snooped myself, and it was shocking to read about myself like that but I also realized I was being nosy and got what I got.

  Having said that, I agree with the other comment about apologizing for name calling, but owning your feelings.  If you think they will get nosy and now keep hunting for a new journal, maybe have an online journal on your phone that is password locked? 

Rags's picture

Generally nothing good comes from reading anothers journal.  Except in a rare situation.  Which was certainly the case in me reading my XW's.

The good that came from that was that I crammed her back into the property settlement she requested and we had agreed on formerly. She proposed the settlement, I agreed, then she later changed her mind.

She moved out of our recently purchased home and in with her geriatric fortune 500 executive sugar/baby daddy and left her files in the study.  Including 3yrs of her university papers, all written by me, both the hand written rough drafts  in my handwriting and the graded final typed versions complete with notes and comments from her Profs/TAs.  I'm proud of the fact that the lowest grade I got on her papers was a B and only one B at that. All the rest were A leve work.  I was not a BSN student.  But I did solid work on topics I knew just about nothing about.   And... years of her journals.  Both were a goldmine and a divorce attorney's dream.  Every infidelity she perpetrated for our entire relationship from when we were dating, then engaged, and ultimatey married until she moved out.  She never stopped dating.  The journals went back years before we even met and their was some scary crap in them let me tell ya.  Slashing people's car tires,  tying  a guy a guy to a hotel bed and leaving  him naked taking all of his clothes and his car keys.  

I had it all, in her handwriting, dated by page/event including names, locations, and even some details on the matress gymnastics.  I photocopied  it all then had the copies notarized. Every paper, every journal page for the duration of our relationship and some of the scarier earlier stuff as well.   All of it.  then I kept the originals and gave her and her short term lawyer a set of notarized copies of it all and told them to return to the original agreement she proposed and I had agreed to or it all became public record at the divorce hearing.  The possibility of her parents and family gaining clarity on her was a massive bludgeon to get her back to the initial agreement.  She wanted to avoid that at all costs. I just wanted out under the original agreed terms that she proposed.

So, something good does come from reading the journals of those devoid of character. It is only when the journal writer is of character that nothing good comes from reading someone's journals.  Toxic people learn some truth about themselves, get their fee fees hurt and then try to flip it on the person journaling.   Though that can also be a good tool for the person of character whose journals were violated. 

Journaling feelings and experiences is one thing. Writing about your own toxic treatment of others and of your  own complete lack of character, morals, and honor is something else entirely. IMHO

Oddly, XW nor her attorney ever demanded the return of the originals.  Though the attorney fired her at the meeting where I slid the file across the conference table to them.  He was an adjunct Prof at the University Lawschool where she had recendly completed her Undergrad. Proof of her academic fraud apparently put him in a conflict of interest situation so he fired her as a client. He advised that she return to the original agreement.  As she was ranting at me profanely for playing that card, I stood up, and walked out while telling her to play nice or I would bring it all to the divorce hearing. 

The original uncontested single attorney divorce agreement was back in effect shortly after that meeting. We had several lunch meetings just the 2 of us after that.  She seemed a whole lot nicer after the meeting where I delivered the notarized copies.

So, lock up your journal and other confidential papers or..... someone may just figure out a way to make good things come from reading them.  Or bad things depending on your perspective.  Particularly if the author is gutter trash.

Which the OP is certainly not.

But, good things can come from reading someone elses journal, under the right circumstances.

Pardon

ESMOD's picture

I get that you would hope for some privacy.. but TBH.. a juicy journal read would be awfully difficult to pass up.  And... your husband is right to be upset that you left something that had such loaded content in a public space.   It's not like your SD went rifling through your lingerie drawer to find it... she could have just picked it up.. maybe looking for a piece of paper or something.. and when she opened it.. she immediately saw things written about herself and mom.. so read further.  I would admit that if I came accross something like that.. my curiosity would probably override the decency to not read it.... especially if it was right out in the open so to speak.

I am not sure if your relationship with her has been surface civil or whether there has been a lot of strife.  I think that you should tell your husband that while you are sorry that you left it where it could be found, you needed to vent these feelings because holding them in would not be healthy.  That while it may not have been nice for her to see what you thought at times, that his daughter and mother were not nice to you either.. and he should have some amount of irritation at his daughter for reading something that was clearly meant to be private.

Re the daughter.  I think the  message is this.  I'm sorry you may have been hurt by reading my private journal.  Unfortunately, the way I vented about things that frustrated me were obviously not meant to be things aired publicly and were not filtered in any way.  You also should understand that while we all may vent and blow off steam in a frustrated moment.. that doesn't mean that is the totality of our feelings towards a person.  I can admit that I have had my frustrations with you over the years and your mother has done many things that have made my life difficult... so while I'm not happy you saw those private vents, I'm sure you have had similar feelings about others.. even me.. whether you wrote them down or not.  Again, I apologize for hurting your feelings but the intent of those writings was to purge the negativity from my mind.. not hurt anyone else.

Harry's picture

Reading ,and touching , other people property.   And you are to blame because you didn't buy a safe and hire armed gards to protect it.  This is bull shi$.  SD gets a pass , BM sticks her nose into a place she shouldn't   And it's all your fault.  

'I think you need a serious look at this relationship,  BF doesn't have your back.  Your personal stuff should not be touched by anyone.  SD would not like you going through her phone if left on a table ,  would she!  BF should be mad at his DD not you.  He can't be under the delusion you love his kid ?  He should be broken away from his ex.  Not taking nonsense phone calls from her.. actually at 18 there should be no phone calls between them.  Just texting   You actually have more problems then you think 

Missy87's picture

SD told her BM, who then told my partner when he came to pick them up. 
 

Yes I do agree with you on a lot of those points . I think I am going to suggest couples therapy 

MorningMia's picture

When I first read this, I pictured SD being maybe 12, not 18. I see SD as a troublemaker. If she went to anyone else about this, it should have been you or her father (ok, I get why an 18 yo might not feel comfortable confronting you). I can't imagine stirring up this kind of s*** when I was that age. And had I looked at someone's private ramblings and cried about it, I probably would have been told by everyone around me, "Hey, you shouldn't have looked." 

We SMs have to be careful because those who have chosen to demonize us will capitalize on every misstep we take. 

BethAnne's picture

Couples therapy sounds like a great idea to get you both to understand where you are coming from and to find a way to move forwards without this destroying your relationship.

BanksiaRose's picture

That's on her, I don't feel bad for her at all. Reading someone's diary, going through their computer or a phone is always going to lead you to something you won't like. That's a good lesson for her. What next - she barges into your bedroom at night or on a Sunday morning, sees what she wishes she never had to see and goes around sharing her anger and disgust? She's an adult in YOUR house, she overstepped every boundary of decency. Any other adult who'd do that would no longer be invited. 
 

I say, keep your head high and remember you don't have to attend every argument you've been invited to. You can always answer any provocations with  a cheerful: "What do you expect to find in diaries other than people's uncensored emotions?" and change the topic or walk away to get on with your day. 
 

Hopefully all this means that she won't be visiting as much or at all.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

I wonder how people would feel if OP left her phone in the living room and the adult SD went through it and used the contents against her. For some reason people see a paper diary as fair game but i wonder how they would feel if it were OP's phone the SD went through? 

ESMOD's picture

It's not so much that it's fair game imho.. but it  is something that people may be unable to pass up a chance to see... OP did it with the Burn book too.. at least with your phone.. most people have them "locked" with a pin or face or other biometric too.

In legal terms there are "attractive nuisances"...like a trampoline or pool.. you need to take extra precaution as an owner because they are "so enticing" that they may attract a child onto your property.. that could be unsafe.  the journal could be so enticing that if left in public someone might be unable to pass it up... again.. even when a journal book was found in the SD's bedroom.. OP read that too. 

So, it's not that it's fair game.. again.. writings like that are pretty loaded and if something is "that" important.. you don't leave it available to others in a public space.. and that would mean if you have sensitive info on your phone.. you should probably have a lock screen on it too.  it's not "right" that SD read it.. or that OP read SD's book.. but when presented with opportunity.. many people will have a hard time resisting.

Rags's picture

"I wrote it in private in lieu of bringing it direclty to play with you and your toxic spawn at the time. Though now that your nosey rude ostensibly kidult daugther broke the seal, it is game on so be ready for the zero tolerance immediate ass baring of her toxic behavior and the failed parenting of you and your idiot XW."

Take a bow.

lala-land's picture

Madam,  Quality adults do not go into other peoples homes and read their private papers and then share that information with others and then to proceed to harass you about what was private information.  This private info not only includes diaries, but bills, wills, business dealings, phone messages, underware drawers, jewelry boxes, medicine cabinets or anything else that someone would normally assume to be private.  Quality individuals ignore that stuff or bring it to the owners attention that they left it out.  If any adult does this in your home, then normally that adult would never be invited back. You should not have to live in Fort Knox to protect your privacy.  What your SD did was beyond reasonable behavior and you and your DH should shut that nonsense down ASAP.  Rags response above seems perfect and could be directed at SD too.

CLove's picture

Meaning that your stuff should be your private stuff. Someone finds your obviously private stuff, they put it in your room. Period.

Im assuming this is your home, of course.

If SD acts like a jerk, smells like a jerk, she must be a jerk. No one is refuting the truth of what you wrote, simply that you wrote it.

Your SO is out of line, but you have bigger issues from what you commented. Always "taking her side in everything under any and all circumstances" means that you are not a united team.

Rags's picture

No one is refuting the truth of what you wrote, simply that you wrote it...."taking her side in everything under any and all circumstances" means that you are not a united team.

Wow. Brilliance in action CLove. Thanks for this.

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