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TKO's picture

My DH and I have been in custoday battles over our children for the last 2 years. Mine just ended two weeks ago with my XH and not much changed. I still have my daughter the majority of the time, but the court process was long, lengthy, nasty and something I'm not looking forward to in another 2 years. My DH's should be coming to an end soon as well.

What I struggle with is DH's outcome and how my DH and I adjust to the GAL report. My DH has 5 of 14 nights and he asked for 7 of 14. SD is now 6 years old and in kindergarten so he'd like to be more involved. We've been married for just over a year now and over the last 2 years, DH has gotten less and less time with his daughter due to the mother just not wanting her around me, feeling I'm not fit and so on. My DH has taken every day in the order that was allowed and filed for 50/50. Over the last year, we've tried very hard to blend our families during all the chaos of being accused of abuse...physical and emotional, and constantly being accused of not being fit. Me....not being fit...not really my DH. We've spent time with the kids, together, and separate with each of us. We've set our rules in our house and kept them consistent. We've tried to attend school events, etc. We've had roadblock after road block. I've been involved and supported my husband through everything. Because he's busy on the road and away from a computer during the day several times I would have the correspondence with BM so we'd get back to her promptly.

I've been told by the SD counselor, school counselor, BM and now GAL that I am over-stepping as a step parent and that I am controlling and manipulative and that my DH won't be getting 50/50 because of my presence. I find this all crazy because my DH sets up appointments for these things and I merely attend. I've never done anything on my own with SD except one time I tried to go to lunch with her at her school...only to be pulled into the principal's office and told that the BM has specifically instructed I not be allowed to see SD unless it is DH's placement and only then I can be there for part of the lunch because placement time runs out during lunch. My DH has asked me to attend with him, my SD has asked me to attend and now my DH get's punished for it. I can and will admit that sometimes I may have gotten very emotional about some subjects when I was being accused of wrong doing, abuse, etc, but it's because it was all so false and I wanted everyone to know plus I wanted BM to just like me and try to trust me....some how and some time. I offered to meet with her several times over coffee just so we could talk and I could reassure her that I wasn't "taking over" and I didn't want her to feel like I was over-stepping. She declined me every time.

I feel like I now have to de-brand myself as a stepmother to my DH's daughter and don't know how far or what measures to take. SD calls me mom and my first name when at our house. We're thinking about telling her just to call me by first name. BM says I'm not to consider myself a parent at all....even though her new husband is allowed to be called dad as well. DH and I have discussed me not attending anymore school functions, teacher conferences, extra curricular activities and not being alone with SD, not picking her up from school or taking her in the morning. I will no longer correct her...I don't disciplinw (time-out) her even at this time, but do correct things like...cleaning up room, not slamming doors, picking up and putting things away, etc. I will no longer help her get dressed, feed her or give approval on things...such as snacks, playing video games, wearing makeup, changing clothes...etc. BM doesn't like how I dress her, if I correct her, says I limit her food intake and don't play with her.

SD is 6 years old. I have no idea what she says to her mother and why....I assumed it was just because she knew her mother didn't like me and said things to her to make her feel better....if SD did in fact say some things. I never though such accusations would be held to without any fact or findings and it would end up being the BM owrd against my DH. SD always runs to me, wants to be by me and do everything with me. I never believed the accussations that she was scared of me because she was always around me.

In our house....I have always taken care of my daughter's bumps and bruises, girls time, feedings, dressings and hair. I never thought this would pose as a problem or come off that I was over-stepping my role as a stepparent. I handle the household items, pay bills, checking on appointments, making sure everyone gets to their appointments, etc...again, I didn't realize that meant I was over-stepping my bounds as a parent. I thought I was just being a good wife and mother and making my place in the new family.

The BM despises me so....and she's only met me in person once. She doesn't even know really who I am. She wants me to have nothing to do with her daughter and to even be around her and she wants no contact with me at all. How am I supposed to ear this woman's trust when she will have nothing to do with me and won't even allow me to spend time with her daughter.

I'm at such a loss right now. I feel terrible that my DH isn't getting more time with his daughter because of me. I want to make sure things change so he can have his time with his daughter like I do with mine.

Things are just so different....MY XH didn't want my daughter around DH either, but things have worked out well. They both talk to each other, see each other, deal with each other. MY DH is allowed to be called Dad and attends everything and is never questioned about over-stepping bounds. My DH does everything that I and my XH do as parents and there aren't any problems.

Any suggestions would be very appreciated. I just dont' want to make matters worse. I want peace in my house for us all. Thank you...

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Colorado Girl's picture

that when one person tells you something about yourself...you don't necessarily need to listen....but when 4 or 5 tell you something, you better stop and listen. Not necessarily BELIEVE but you need to stop and listen.

"I've been told by the SD counselor, school counselor, BM and now GAL that I am over-stepping as a step parent and that I am controlling and manipulative...."

I am a step-mom to three girls and I AM controlling and I overstepped my bounds with my step children. It infuriated my skids BM. It took me going to counseling and some serious soul searching to finally admit this. My intentions were always "good" but as we all know, the pathway to hell is paved with these "good intentions".....

My advice. Back off. Go to counseling for yourself. Leave all the BS of BM, DH, and SD to DH and BM. Focus all your "parenting" energy on your own child. Your SD obviously has two very capable parents so let them be just that.

I say all of this to you bluntly because you have no idea how much me backing off has helped our "blended family". I don't go to drop off/pickups. I don't go to school functions, soccer games, band recitals, etc. I don't take to dr./ortho/dentist appts. I enjoy the girls when they come to our house and that's it. I'll babysit if DH has to work but no other reason. I never, never go to mediation, court appearances, or parent/teacher conferences. It is just not my place and I completely respect BMs wishes regarding the same even though she takes her BF to all of these. She can be a hypocrite all she wants....I won't bother with it anymore and my DH is secure enough not to care. For some reason my mere existence bothers her...I can't change that but I can alleviate it for her a little bit.

My skids BM filed a petition in August to modify parenting time reducing my husband's time to about 4 days a month. We are now processing an order that she has agreed to with 50/50 placement. I know for a fact that me backing off had at least 90% to do with it. I even made a phone call to her recently apologizing for every time I over stepped my role as a step parent and stuck my big nose right in the middle of all THEIR business....she thanked me profusely and even apologized for some of her past behavior. It was monumental after ALL that we have been through.

I know there are many that don't agree with this approach, but it works for me. I love my skids and they adore me. I let BM "win" the power struggle her and I were having and it has been so peaceful ever since.

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...It's about learning to dance in the rain."

TKO's picture

Thank you for your comments and it's not that I don't agree or admit that I haven't over-stepped at all. I know that I have a couple of times....and have apologized and tried to do so in person, but she won't have it. She won't accept my apology. I'm glad to hear that it has worked for you not to attend these things, because that's what I feel needs to happen now, and I'm just afraid the SD will feel I'm being uncaring and mean because I don't give her the same attention I give to my own daughter and no longer do the thigns I did before. I'm open to trying it and only want what's best for her and my DH....which is for them to be together. We're planning a family meeting to discuss some changes with routines in hopes of her just getting the cut off with no warning.

Thank you again.

Colorado Girl's picture

I didn't think I was overstepping my bounds either because in my eyes I wasn't. To most of the universe, I wasn't. It was through HER eyes. BM's jaded, bipolar view of my involvement. So I decided I could either spend the rest of my life trying to convince her otherwise or I could appease her request of me to "mind my own business". And as far as her accepting my apology, I only extended it AFTER months of no contact whatsoever. It also came after she told DH she was done "hating me". All I did was call her and tell her that I was glad to hear it. I'm one of the lucky ones, though. My skids BM is capable of being normal....as long as you can catch her on an upswing.

My skids are 5, 8, and 11 and I've been with them for over 3 years. They love me and respect me immensely. There was no big family meeting to discuss me being less involved in their day to day life. I just quit. Here's the thing...those little girls will ALWAYS care if their parents are at all their functions. My presence is incidental to them. When they see me in this type of setting it's always the same thing "where's my dad?...oh, there he is...Dad, is mom coming?...." I've held my SD11 bawling in my arms because her mom didn't go to a soccer tournament because her mom wanted to punish DH and I. Even though I had taken her to every practice, SD11 could have cared less that I was there. Little shit. Smile

I stay home not because I'm not allowed or wasn't invited, but because it's more important to me that BM goes and can enjoy her daughters and her daughters can enjoy a happy mom. If my absence at p/t conferences and court dealings causes her to be more civil to DH, then her wish is my command. Maybe one day BM will get over all her insecurities and hangups and be okay with my presence....but I doubt it. But until then, she won't ever have to worry about it.

"...and I'm just afraid the SD will feel I'm being uncaring and mean because I don't give her the same attention I give to my own daughter and no longer do the thigns I did before."

I love, love my stepdaughters. I tell them all the time and we have wonderful little "chats" when I do their hair or the other day while SD11 helped me make dinner or go shopping for their first bra or painting our nails or whatever other "girl" activity. They know I adore them and would do just about anything for them. I don't need them to understand why I don't go to some of their "functions". They are too young to worry about it and frankly, I'm pretty sure it's pretty low on their list of concerns. It will only be a big deal if I make it one. My excuse was always, "I just can't make it sweety...but I want to hear all about it!!!!!" Now, they don't even ask anymore.

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...It's about learning to dance in the rain."

LizzersBG's picture

None of this is your fault. It's no one's fault, really. Everyone is looking for someone to blame and since you are not part of the "bloodline" you are singled out. That is just how it works. I have been told that I too overstep my boundaries simply because I did for Ss as I would do for my own 2 BDs.
After 3 years of BM pushing me out of the way, calling me names, saying she was going to file harassment chgs on me, refusing to give my H info on the SS simply bc she wants control and doesnt want me around.
It's sort of like this: you have to decide-Do you want to continue like this or not?
You can take it to the bank-this vindictive person WANTS you to feel exactly how you feel right now. I know, we all want to think we are in control of our emotions but how are we in control when we are so quick to tell ourselves we are a failure and that the legal things that happen are our faults? This is what people want you to do. When a BM goes in to a GAL they are automatically put on a pedastal (take it from me, I was on that pedastal and I used it to my advantage-not with another woman with my BD grandparents who wanted her absent fathers rights). You will never be seen as the provider for this child. The court and it's figures see only the parents. Your word will mean nothing in court and mean nothing to the GAL.
I hope that your SD has not gone and said these things. I have a 6yr old BD and she does go back and forth with myself and her grandparents. I have found that if I ever do ask her a question she will give me the answer that she thinks I want to hear and I will have to remind her that telling the truth is the important part, not making Mommy happy. At 6, most children are eager to please and will say (we go to church and actively participate-Im not saying that will make a child lie or not lie, Im just pointing out I have made the effort to instill what I think are good values)anything to please the people they love. If you are waiting with open arms for this child each time she comes over, you are inviting a problem. The instant a child-no matter how young-realizes they can manipulate they will do it and they will do it often. My daughter often complains about "no one" playing with her at nanny & poppys. She will tell me later that she wants to go over there bc I won't play with her like they will!?
Six is a vulnerable age.
School functions must be crept upon with the utmost carefulness. I will not go to any school functions. I end up at the school bc I volunteer my time and I often run into BM at whole-school functions. She always makes it a point to speak to my children and then later says something smart about them. How the look like little snots with their nice clothes blah blah whatever.
I attend a ptc with my H every year. He went with his X 3 years ago and she sat and laughed and made excuses for SS the whole time. I went bc I was invited. I don't care if the teacher wants me there or not. The childs performance in school affects my children and myself. If he does poorly and we get on to him my other kids know that Bubby doesn't do well in school. This isn't healthy for my kids, thus the reason we will soon be cutting all ties.
Your SD sounds like she does need that counseling. Maybe you should not go. Just say to yourself and the other parties that if you are not involved you are not involved-your behavior shouldnt affect the outcome if youaren't involved, right?! Don't let them drag you through the dirt. I got into soe legal trouble back in my late teens-at my husbands custody hearing I went thinking it was the right thing to do-we were not married at that time-her atty put me on the stand and made me repeat each sin of my entire lifetime, wanted me to tell the whole entire story to everyone in the court room. My soon to be in laws were there, along with teachers and such.
Needless to say, I was misrepresented and my husband did not get the custody that he deserved. The Judge ruled it was not in the child's favor to chg JC, but that mother should be primary physical custodian (and this is a direct quote) "Simply bc she has has control of the minor child for the majority of the time since the divorce."
I was portrayed (and the court even listed my first daughters BF as my XH (I was never married) and said he was a drug addict and that he was involved in his daughters life and that would somehow affect the SS. Don't know much about anyone else, but people change, they grow up and not everyone stays stuck. There are stories of people falling and getting back up out there, and I live one of those each and every day. I have never once looked back and to tell my story to total strangers, well that was where I drew the line. I did continue to try and help out, I still do once in a while. I even took SS to his Ortho appt the other day. Now I am just waiting for BM to complain and say that she has no idea what happened, how dare I take him somewhere yea yea. It's old now. I rarely do things like that anymore. I know I sort of delved off into my own experience but bottom line here:
YOu will not be looked at for the person you are, even though you know your intentions are pure and you love that little girl. It hurts more to keep trying and be knocked down over & over than it does to stop. You can still love her but stop the extras. You'll never get what you're looking for. Im not implying youarent loved back Im simply saying that things will always be repeated by no fault of the child-if Mom asks them a ? they are going to answer and Mom will take the answers and run, you can be sure of that. Her heart will not chg and just bc they may take his visitation or part of it does not mean this is the end of her. Take measures to protect yourself and your family. Hopefully your H is strong enough to look beyond the falsehoods that people are saying and move on with you. It will require a little letting go from both of you.
Hope you get to feeling better Smile

SoFrustrated's picture

I kinda straddle both sides. Whenever Hubby asks me to go somewhere with him in regards to the skids, I go. We attend all functions that we know about. I go with him to drop off and pick up, because he wants me to go with him. Next time they have mediation or court, if he wants me there I will go. However, I don't interact with BM at all unless she approaches us. We have always made sure the skids know that at church and events and such we don't care where they sit, with us or with BM, we're just here for them. I also don't interact with the skids in front of BM unless they come to me. It's not like I ignore them, I say Hi and give them a hug if they come up to me, but I don't follow after them or seek them out, unless DH does and pulls me along with him. I pretty much stay silent when Hubby talks to BM, unless filling in info that he forgot. I stand there, politely, and stay quiet. That way BM can never call me pushy or witchy or whatever, because everyone knows how I am and no one will believe her. Now, when we get home and it's just me and Hubby, well then all bets are off and I give BM a piece of my mind, in absentia, and then I'm all good :evil: I simply refuse to participate in any kind of tug of war with BM. I'm simply there to back up my Hubby. Since I don't do anything other than exist, if she throws a fit everyone calls her crazy, especially since she brings her fiance everywhere with her, and she ends up losing face. After that happened once or twice she stopped, because her public image is the most important thing to her. She might still hate seeing me there, but she is polite now, and that's all I need.

FallingfromGrace's picture

Good way to put it. I do go to events, all of them. I dont do drop offs of pick ups, but she lives about 2 minutes away so it is not a big trip or anything. She is remarried too and he also does all events. She does not speak me to at all. I think I could be standing there on fire and she would still pretent that I dont exist. I am fine with that. I dont engage her either. I dont engage the skids when they are with her. I too will acknowledge them if they come to me but otherwise, I just pretent along with them that I am invisible. I think that as a bio mom, my natural instinct is to try to keep everythng equal and treat them as my own, but I have to remind myself that they are not mine. I do love them, just from a distance.

ColorMeGone2's picture

...but do what you want in your own home. It's an easy and painless way to assure your DH of victory.

♥ Georgia ♥

"Good men don't just happen. They have to be created by us women." (from ROSEANNE)

whatamess's picture

Although I don't know your situation, if you had 50/50 with your ex-husband, then I can see you complaining about your DH not having 50/50...but I'm not sure why it is that it's ok for you to be so happy that you have your daughter the majority of the time, ie. more than 50/50, but not ok for your husband's ex-wife to think the same is ok?

Sorry if I sound rude, I don't mean to at all...I just don't understand why the double standard. Any possible reason you could use to have your DH have 50/50 with his child, your ex should also be able to use to have his child more often.

TKO's picture

It would be a double standard if the situations were the same, but they are not.

My DH saw his daughter more than his current placement schedule until I came into the picture. He had/has exercised all of his placement, received and requested more and now that she stopped being flexible has asked for it to be changed in the order.

My X has dropped time with our daughter, month after month, year after year, not taken all the time in the order to include phone calls, extended weekends, summer placement and holidays, and never asked for more time/changes in the order unless it's been due to retaliation because child support was increased, medicals bills were sent asking for payment,criminal charges were filed or to lesson child support.

My DH is involved in his daughter's education and wants to be more involved and be made aware of and attend her extra curricular activities and medical visits. My X has not ever attended any events, even when I bought and gave tickets, attended any PT conferences, met with teachers, assisted with homework and allowed her to attend events during his time with her. My X has also not taken our daughter to the doctor once, paid for any medical bills or premiums, or visited her in the hospital during two surgeries...even when I told him of appointments and called him upon arrivals. And, even though child support isn't a main reason, my X rarely pays child support and my DH always pays on time and hasn't requested a reduction even though he had a reduction in income. I add that to his already long list of being irresponsible and uncaring toward the care of our child whereas my DH accepts his financial responsibilty and doesn't try to hide himeslf or his income. My DH hasn't been made aware of any doctor appointments until after they are done, been allowed to take her to or attend any annual visits.

So, yes I agree, it would be a double standard if I complained and the situations were the same, but again they are not. They don't even come close to comparison. I truly wish my X did care as much for our daughter as my DH cares for his. Then I wouldn't be in court with him and we'd work this out between ourselves. I can't force my X to be a father to our daughter, but I will protect the best interests and well being of her. The courts and GAL agreed that my X's current intentions were not that of our daughter, but his for a long list of reasons. My X still got more time with this last court case - just not 50/50 and I did not dispute the changes- he did, I just disputed 50/50 which would have been a drastic change.

Since these changes took effect, just like his past history, he has already not taken advantage of all the current and added time given.

TKO's picture

SD no longer calls me mother, mom, mommy,etc just calls me by my first name. She still stumbles and has complained a couple times, but I react in the same manner as I did before like it's the same and no big deal. She's doesn't really talk to me much anymore and my DH thinks she feels she's being punished, but we agreed to give it more time. Some things have been uncomftable as I've pushed things back to my DH when SD has come to me, but so far and my fingers will stay crossed that this continus, things worked out.

I think it's more of an adjustment to my DH. That he has more on his plate again and I'm not there to pick it all up like everything else. It is still something for me to get used to though. Staying home and not attending events was different, but gave me some added free time with my daughter and for myself.

BM also sent my DH a note that was "nice" so there's another positive.

So- hopefully things will continue in a positive direction for all and everyone will just get used to things.

Thanks to everyone and as always this entire site for the a place to vent, get advice, support and suggestions on what's been done and what can be done and what NOT to do.

skatermom's picture

I would have a huge problem if my daughter's called their step mother, "mom, mommy" or any variation.  I don't know why you allowed that to begin with.  I agree with the others, step back and allow you DH to parent and don't get too involved.  In my experience that will back fire.