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lfechanger's picture

Found this forum today and I'm looking for some help/insight. My boyfriend and I (in our very early 40's) live together and he has an 8 year old son who is with us every other weekend and 2 days during the week every other week. He and I have discussed marriage but I have only 1 problem. His son..who is 8, does not sleep in his own bed. When his son is here, I sleep in the guest bedroom. Originally, I was ok with sleeping in the guest bedroom because the 8 year old did not know of our relationship....and we felt it was inappropriate. However, I was not (and still not) ok with him not sleeping in his own bed. My boyfriend has told me that its something that he's working on and the "goal for the summer" is to get him in his own bed. About 3 months ago, he told his son that when he's at his mothers house, he and I sleep together in the bed. So now his son understands that we are in a relationship and we sleep together.
It seems every time I bring this up, the boyfriend gets very angry about it. He has told me that originally it was almost a comfort thing with his wife leaving him and a 2 year old....for him and his son. So now 6 years later, he has never slept in his own bed. We have been living together for about 7 months now and this is obviously a huge issue for me. It makes me sad and angry and...I hate to admit this but I'm starting to resent his son. I like his son...a lot! ... Until its time to go to bed. Am I off the mark here?
Any insight on this is appreciated.
Thank you!

realitycheckmom's picture

8 is way too old to be sleeping in the parents bed. There is something wrong here, especially if your BF is getting angry or defensive when you ask him to move his son to his own bed.

chokinonlemons2u's picture

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Drac0's picture

No you are not off the mark and you have come to the right place. Some people have no problem with co-sleeping. Some parents actually like it. I don't. I believe children need to learn to sleep by themselves and need to be taught this early.

When I met my SS, he and DW were co-sleeping. DW admitted that it was a problem and that she was trying to work on it, but with her break-up, the moves, etc...It was difficult to ween SS off of co-sleeping and she agreed that this was something we needed to work on. Unfortunately, I quickly learned that the rules that DW and I tried to put in place for SS, were only being enforced by me.

Flash forward 6 years later and it is STILL a problem. No, DW and my SS don't co-sleep, but SS routinely pulls stunts to avoid going to bed. DW managed to ween SS off of co-sleeping, but there were days where she just couldn't be bothered (or was just too tired) to stay consistent with him and just slept with him. What would typically happen is that she would lay with him until he fell asleep and then she would come into bed with me. SS would wake up, realize he was alone and then creep into our bed and sleep with us! I put my foot down. I told DW and SS that there was no way I would allow SS to sleep in our bed. DW agreed that it was inappropriate and we both laid down the law.

That is when the midnight zombie calls started.

"Moooom?"

"Maaaaaaaaaawm?"

"MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWM?"

SS was always calling for his mother for one thing or another in the middle of the night; "I heard a strange noise!", "I can't sleep!", "I just remembered I have a book report due tomorrow."

My all time favorite excuse for waking us up in the middle of the night is "I can't sleep, my hair hurts!"

I got so irritated being woken up in the middle of the night like this that I stormed into SS's room, pointed at him and said "If you wake me up again, THE HOUSE BETTER BE ON FIRE!"

SS stopped calling for his Mom after that.

As you can see, weening children off of co-sleeping requires bucket-loads of patience, and most importantly CONSISTENCY!!! It won't happen overnight, but it will happen. Yes the kid is going to be upset. Yes he is going to cry. DO. NOT. GIVE. UP!!! This applies to you and your BF. The moment you give them an inch, they'll take a mile. My DW still doesn't understand this concept (although she is trying) but your BF must be told that he is doing his child a huge disservice by letting him co-sleep. The longer he waits to correct this, the harder it will get. My SS is now 13 and he STILL wants to be tucked in at night. He's 13 but he has the mental maturity of a 6 year old. The only time he didn't want to be tucked in was because he was sneaking his iPhone into bed (that's a whole other story).

Yeah, I have run the gauntlet of bedtime antics, and while I have a wealth of experience on the subject, I fully admit my own failures on this subject which is why I have disengaged from my SS at bedtime. Past 10:30pm, I pretend he doesn't exist. If he comes out of his bedroom to me to ask me for something, I tell him to go see his mother.

I have two bios (4 and 2). The 2-year-old still cries in the middle of the night but she goes back to bed in her crib once I console her. My other kid? He sleeps peacefully throughout the night (no co-sleeping). Yes, I will lay down with him and read him a story, but I don't co-sleep with him. I find co-sleeping stunts a child's maturity and I will argue until I am blue in the face on how wrong it is.

lfechanger's picture

Thanks for the feedback. For the past 6 years its been my boyfriend and his son. That's it. His son has never seen him around other girlfriends or anything. So when I moved in, it was a shock I'm sure. I'm sure there is a certain amount of jealousy going on and I think he feels like he is in some sort of competition with me. This kid acts immature, has to always be hanging on his dad and doesn't want to be separated from him. There's always an excuse as to why he can't sleep alone. Recently we went on vacation and he said he wanted to sleep in the room with his cousin. His idea. We were all getting ready for bed and he gets in the king size bed with us! I asked what he was doing and my boyfriend tries to get him to sleep in the other room. They come back in the bedroom and the excuse this time was "it's a strange house and I'm scared". So for a week I got to sleep in a king size bed with my boyfriend in the middle between us. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm so frustrated! Every time I bring up this topic, it turns into an argument and I'm told "when you have something set in your mind, you really dig your heels into it". He knows how I feel about this he keeps saying they're working on it so I try not to bring it up. But every time his son is here, I get more bitter.

herewegoagain's picture

OK, I have been there. Now, there are a couple of things. Honestly, with an intact family I see NOTHING wrong with this. However, with a divorced parent, sadly, things MUST be different. The BS about all should be the same is just that, BS. You deserve to sleep with your DH, he needs to put a stop to the co-sleeping immediately. You see, with divorced kids, they WANT to split you up and if you give them this power when they are 8, they will play it forever. With intact families this is different. Yes, I don't care what anyone says. Sleeping in the same bed as your BIO PARENTS is NOT the same as sleeping with your BIO parent and the new boyfriend or girlfriend and THEY should be your priority. Simple. He needs to get the kid out of the bed as soon as he can. I would say, like, IMMEDIATELY. He needs to find CDs, books, nightlights or whatever to get the kid to be on his own IMMEDIATELY.

lfechanger's picture

I wish I would've looked at your response this morning before I brought it up again! The erection thing is a good point. When I said something this morning, he said that he created this mess and coddled him and he has to get out of this mess. I brought up that after our vacation he told his son he had to start sleeping in his own bed and he hasn't followed thru with this. I work 3 nights a week and he said when I'm not here, he tries to get him in his own bed but he's scared. I also found out that at his moms house, she makes him sleep in his own bed but he acts like he's sleeping and will wait for her to fall asleep and then crawls in bed with her! So she's having to deal with this crap too! I understand she's at her wits end too. I kind of wish I could talk to her about it but I'm not sure it's my place since we are not married yet.

ej'scrazy's picture

Yes, it's important to find a good counselor. BM allows sd 11 to sleep with her, and has for the last three years (DH and BM have been separated for five; divorced for four). Unfortunately, BM sees no issue with it, and it continues to this day. SD sees a counselor who wants this "cosleeping" arrangement to take it's "natural course." I think it's crap, but I'm not the parent.

There will be bigger issues down the road if it doesn't stop now.

christinen's picture

I dealt with the co-sleeping bs when DH and I moved in together and he had SD (she was 2 at the time, she is 5 now). Before we moved in together, DH and SD slept together but here's the thing- when we moved in together, I flat out refused to have a kid in my bed. Nope, not happening. That kid was NEVER allowed in my bed and I would be damned if I left my own bed so that she can sleep with my husband (boyfriend at the time). You have got to stop giving in to this ridiculous behavior. Not to mention 8 years old is WAY too old to be co-sleeping. I am against co-sleeping but I could see why DH thought it was ok when SD was 2, but 8 freakin years old? That kid is in school all day without daddy, there's no reason in this world he needs to sleep with daddy. That's downright disturbing. Time to put an end to this!

jcouncil's picture

I know this is a forum for step parents to vent, but I came upon this forum and felt that the "other side" needs to be offered. I am a divorced single mother with two kids. I have been co-sleeping with my kids (8 daughter and 6 son) since my divorce 5 years ago, which was traumatic for all concerned. I personally LOVE this peaceful time with my children, and so do they. Because I share custody, I find that we need this time to reconnect and sync up. I get to feel the sublime comfort of their presence, while also providing comfort and security. I am immediately available when nightmares or disturbances upset them, and studies show that this increases empathy and enhances personal connections with others. I am in a relationship now that is getting serious, and my BF is not happy with my co-sleeping choice, and so I am trying to find a compromise myself. But in reading the responses to your post, I find that step parents are very rigid on this, stating that something is WRONG with the bio parent or WRONG with a child, and that co-sleeping is WRONG. That makes me sad for the children in this world, with divorce on the rise, kids are ever aware of the fleeting connection between people, and I think this has a very deep and dovetailing consequence for our society as a whole. Firstly, I have done my research, and there is no evidence to support that co-sleeping is in ANY way harmful to a child's development. In traditional cultures all over the world, co-sleeping has been a common practice. Not only is it NOT damaging to the children, it is proven that co-sleeping has a long list of benefits for both the child and the parent(s) involved. A simple Google search can produce ample evidence to back me up here. Where it gets tricky is when a new BF/DH/GF/SM is introduced. While I appreciate my boyfriends view point, I also feel that my children are only little for a short time, and that time is important. Couples who live together that are full time parents may have more reason to ween the kids from the bed sooner, but creativity and making the most of your alone time (or creating a space for just the two of you) can often help you and your partner find compromise. Perhaps the step child needs to feel the connectivity of their parent in light of the emotional insecurity of the divorce and living in two separate homes. A child can't articulate their emotions and often, so it is important to have empathy for this child and not view him as "manipulative." He seeks comfort and reassurance, and if denied, the child may resort to more creative measures to get the attention they once received, whether it is good attention or bad. Behavioral issues arise in these cases, and then you have bigger problems on your hands. Your DH sounds like a very good man, and if I were you, I would do some further reading about this topic and also, for the love of all innocence, respect a child's desire to be near their parent. There are many psychological and physiological reasons why he needs and wants this. Soon he will be a teen and want nothing to do with mom or dad. Now is the time when bonds are formed and neuro-pathways are formed, even well into adolescence (our brains are ever changing). Beyond your own personal comfort or desires for intimacy, there is something very precious about co-sleeping (which isn't necessarily the same thing as bed-sharing). Step parents owe it to their partner to seek to understand why this irreplaceable time is so important for him/her when their child is young. You can't get that time back. Co-sleeping isn't for everyone, but the benefits far outweigh the negative consequences, as long as the adults in the situation can come to a compromise that works for everyone. I suggest that you and your partner talk to your step son together and explain how it's important for you two to have a special time alone, and get him to help you come to a solution that gives him some say in the matter. He would be less likely to buck or manipulate if he helps in the problem solving process (which is a far more important life skill than learning to sleep alone). Above all, anyone who says that a parent should put their relationship before their child is not giving much consideration to the parent and the child in that equation. If you feel neglected, expressing your feelings and working with your partner to find a resolution is paramount. We all need love and affection, and reassurance of such. That is what being in a relationship and being a parent is all about, and it is the reciprocity of those behaviors that create the strongest bonds.

Rags's picture

Goal for the summer? This is an immediate thing not a goal for the summer thing. IMHO of course.

SO needs to put the kid in the guest room, tell him that is where he sleeps from now on. Tuck him in. And close the door and go to your shared bed. End of story.

J2006's picture

If your bf can't fix this issue now, he will not be able to fix many other issues,,, ask him to solve it ,, if not walk out of this life .... 8 yo is too old

Genelady825's picture

You do not belong in the guest room and the 8 year old boy does not belong in his father's bed! You need to have a discussion and change the arrangement asap. You two are a unit and there is no time like the present to straighten things out.