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JYMCat's picture

I stopped taking birth control a few years ago because I don't like what it does to my body and at the time I was in a committed relationship so I felt safe. That relationship ended with no scares thankfully and I moved on but continued not to use anything other than a condom. After my last relationship ended and after having to take Plan B more than once, I thought to myself, I'm 25 (at the time but I'll be 28 next month) I have a stable job with benefits and my own place to live. If I were to have an unplanned pregnancy I'd be prepared to accept the consequences.

I'm in a committed relationship again and we've discussed the future countless times within our two years together and we both want to marry each other and have kids. When we started being sexually active with each other, I told him I don't take birth control and he was fine and said condoms are fine. Last year we had a scare and he asked me to take Plan B. He went through all the reasons why he wasn't ready to be a father. Even though he already is (hence why I'm on here) and the child he's raising isn't biologically his. So it made me think twice about how much he is actually committed to me. I mean I'm not saying we should try to have a baby I just think that we're both grown adults and we both made a decision to have sex so we should accept the consequences of what happens if whatever birth control is being used, fails. Whatever, I took the Plan B and moved on. Well we had another accident with a condom recently and now there's a possibility that I'm pregnant. I didn't take Plan B this time and he said he wasn't going to ask because he remembers how much damage it did to our relationship the first time. The last time this happened I brought up the subject of abstaining from sex until we're both ready to have kids and it won't be such a big deal if I get pregnant. He was totally against it and felt that if I want to avoid getting pregnant then I need to take birth control. It's the same story this time. He doesn't want to have a kid yet but he doesn't want to stop having sex. So the it's all up to me to avoid a pregnancy that I wouldn't mind happening. The plan is for us to get married and have kids anyway so why does it matter when that happens?

I just feel like he's being really selfish. I feel like he probably just doesn't see himself with me and won't say it. I feel like the only equal compromise would be to abstain. He against this. So my choices are to stop having sex with him without it being a mutual decision, go on birth control, or to stop having intercourse with him but to do other stuff so that his sexual needs are being met. He has agreed to the last option. I think that's incredibly selfish. He has said that if I want to have sex with him he wants to but we've already established that having sex with just a condom is not a good idea because we've had scares multiple times. I don't know what to do. What would you do if you were in my position? Am I reading too much into this? Am I wrong for not wanting to take birth control?

AllySkoo's picture

I don't know, I kind of see both points here. On the one hand, no, you're not wrong for not wanting to take birth control. But you're kind of putting it all on him (exactly what you're accusing him of doing). Either he abstains from sex with you or it means he's not really committed to you? I think that's kind of a stretch, to be honest. You don't really agree about birth control and whether each of you is ready for a baby. And each of you is entitled to their own view on that, without it *necessarily* meaning the relationship is doomed. But since you don't agree, the best you can do is say what you have - "Look, I'm not taking birth control. We can use condoms, but you know that's not 100% guarantee. I would be OK with having a baby with you at this point, so I'm willing to accept that risk. Whether or not YOU are willing to accept that risk is entirely up to you." And then just leave it be. You've made your point clear, you're not forcing him into agreeing with you or to make a decision. What he does at that point is up to him, as it should be. You're both adults, you both make your own decisions, and you both have to live with the consequences of those decisions whatever they may be.

JYMCat's picture

I didn't mean for it to come off as I think he's not committed to me unless we abstain. I feel like if he were committed to me than he wouldn't mind if a pregnancy happened outside of his plan for himself. He doesn't want to have any more children until he's married and financially stable, which I feel is smart. But he doesn't want to stop having sex either so I feel like it's all up to me to keep myself from getting pregnant. Maybe it is. I guess I'm wrong for thinking it should be a mutual decision. I'm only in charge of myself and I don't want to take birth control for health reasons so I don't know what to do other than abstain. He feels that no sex would damage our relationship.

JYMCat's picture

I realize he isn't ready. Neither am I. Which is why I don't think it's smart to continue to have sex only using a condom. What I don't get is why everyone is against abstinence?

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

I don't have a problem with abstinence but you seem to be doing it as a punishment to him instead of a legitimate solution to your problem. If he agreed to abstinence, you'd be here saying he doesn't love you enough because he doesn't seem bothered by you guys not having sex. Because a healthy part of a relationship means being sexually attracted to one another. And you seem to have a problem with abstinence but still doing other sexual things, just not intercourse, because you think he's being selfish.

Finally, the only options he has and still be sexually active with you is either condoms or oral, both of which he is willing to use, so it's not all on you and not sure why you think that way. Unless you want him to have a vasectomy, but if you both want kids in the future, that's not an option.

JYMCat's picture

I wouldn't be here if he agreed to that. But he didn't so I am. I'm not trying to punish him. I feel that logically the only way to be 100% is to not have sex at all. Birth control isn't 100% AND it isn't good for me. I didn't think it would have a negative effect on my relationship because there are other ways to be intimate that don't involve sex.

JYMCat's picture

I'll probably end up saying what you've suggested. I don't like the idea of taking birth control when I don't want to.

Easylikesundaymornin's picture

Ummmm plan b has saved you multiple times. Birth control seems to be your best bet. If he is not willing to be in a committed relationship with you , and you want more. Why are you still there ??

If he is blankly telling you he is not ready why are you trying to change his mind. It's not working ~ ~ I wouldn't be in this relationship. Sounds like your timing is off. You want what you want and he doesn't want that. Don't try to change his mind ~ it won't be in your best interest.

JYMCat's picture

He didn't say he's not committed to me. I feel like he isn't by his actions and words. That may just be my interpretation which is why I'm here. I understand that what I think may be over exaggerating.

JYMCat's picture

You're right and I don't want that for myself either. I don't want to take birth control which is a personal preference. He's fine with using a condom but if it fails he's not ready to accept the consequences. Which is why I want to stop having sex but he feels like it would damage our relationship.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

O...kay. I guess I'm not understanding why taking Plan B is not an option for you. To me, it'd basically like a condom except after the fact. That's why it's called emergency contraceptive and not abortion.

So, with that in mind, is it because you want to get pregnant? Unless you actually want a child, not taking Plan B after a known accident is a very big risk and a stupid one to me. It's okay to be honest about it if you do want a kid, because to not take it seems to be swinging the favors to having one.

Obviously it's already too late to take it, but I think part of being an adult is making the best decision--not just an okay decision. Especially in light of the fact that we are in an age where contraceptives are not only legal, but so readily available.

You don't like what hormonal contraceptives do, there's non hormonal options like a copper IUD, or spermicide + condom together.

He is right in that he will not have sex with you without you being on some sort of birth control, because he can only control so much. It is absolutely his right to say he's not comfortable with having sex if you are not open to the idea of another contraceptive. In fact, I actually applaud him for it because he is actually thinking responsibly and like an adult. This is the kind of son I would hope to raise, but if you don't respect his request to minimize the odds of having a child he will not want, then you would not be the kind of woman I'd want him to be with.

He has a good head on his shoulders, either condoms plus female birth control or no sex at all. More than I can say for a lot of these other men with oops pregnancies.

JYMCat's picture

It's ME who wants to stop having sex. Not him. He's fine with a just a condom but he's not fine if I get pregnant accidentally. I'm sorry if that part wasn't clear. I see your point about plan b. I guess I didn't look at it that way. I really don't like what it does to me. Each time I've taken it, it's taken 5 months for my period to be normal again and I've had other negative side effects as well. I don't want to have a baby I just wouldn't mind if it happened. Is that the same as wanting a baby?

Calypso1977's picture

I chart my cycle. I have since 2009. Ive had a few scares along the way but those were totally my fault as i knew i was taking a chance by having sex at a time when i knew i was not supposed to but did it anyway.

i HIGHLY recommend picking up "Taking Charge of your Fertility". YOu can self teach from that book.

ocs's picture

what is it about hormonal contraception you don't like?

BC in 2014 has come a long way. Put it this way- I am much older than you, and typically not in the demographic to use many things. Because of the 'next to nothing' risk of some BC, my DR is good to prescribe.

Less stressful than Plan B

JYMCat's picture

I don't know. I can try but I know that when I'm menstruating I'm not very nice so I'd imagine uping my hormones would have the same effect.

amber3902's picture

Condoms are so unreliable they might as well not even make them. I've had them come off, tear, break, etc. And Plan B is expensive, $50 a pop.

Your BF doesn't have a problem wearing a condom, so I don't think he's being selfish. Wearing a condom is pretty much the only thing he CAN do, short of vasectomy, and those are way more expensive than Plan B's.

You say you both agree that you want to get married and have kids, but last year when ya'll had your scare and had to take Plan B, he explained to you all the reasons why he wasn't ready to be a father.

So could it be possible that while you THINK you are both on the same page with marriage and kids, could it be your desire to get married and have kids is making you block out what he is saying about not being ready to be a father?

I think you need to have a heart to heart with your BF. You feel that if he REALLY wanted to get married/have kids, there should be no issue with just taking the risks of getting pregnant right now. Maybe he's not so certain about marriage/kids, hence the reason why he does not want you to get pregnant right now. And it could not even be uncertainty about the relationship, maybe he wants to make more money before ya'll make that more.

You need to tell him how you feel. Good luck to you.

JYMCat's picture

Thank you for your input. I only feel that he's being selfish because he's fine with us not having intercourse but fine with me doing other stuff to him. I feel that he's being selfish because he is fine with only wearing a condom but if it breaks like they often do, he isn't ready to accept the consequences. The first time he told me he wanted me to take Plan B. This time he didn't ask but he told me that he would be stressed out if I got pregnant. I don't want to cause stress on him or myself. I don't want to take birth control which I know is a personal preference but I also know that condoms are pretty much useless. So I feel that not having sex at is is the best and only 100% way to make sure I don't get pregnant. He's against this.

amber3902's picture

Well, he is a guy. Pretty hard to expect any red blooded man to abstain from sex, especially when he's in a committed relationship with someone he's obviously attracted to.

You are right condoms are pretty much useless, but there are other kinds of BC out there. There's this stuff you can get in the drug store, it's call VCF - vaginal contraceptive film. I forget how much it costs exactly but I think it was less than $20 for a box with maybe 10 films in it. You fold it up and put it inside you a few minutes before sex. I used it and nothing else for a few months and worked fine for me, never got pregnant on it. No side effects whatsoever.

JYMCat's picture

I guess I'll just have to suck it up and experiment with birth control. I'm just allergic to a number of things and I hate having to go through the reactions my body has to stuff. I know sometimes in a relationship a person has to make sacrifices, I suppose taking birth control is mine.

JYMCat's picture

I would like to be celibate. That was my first suggestion after the issue came up. He threw it out and I feel like using a condom is just asking for a baby. I said I feel like we're playing Russian roulette and it's only a matter of time before our luck runs out. Any birth control that I've tried thus far has had bad effects and they're not even 100%. I am allergic a lot of stuff so it's hard to find something that works but won't wreak havoc on me. He doesn't want to stop having sex but he doesn't want me to get pregnant. I feel like I'm getting backed into a corner.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Uhh.. if you are okay with being celibate with your partner, there's something wrong on your feelings of the relationship. Even now I can't get enough of DH and vice versa. If you're okay with celibacy... something's wrong.

christinen's picture

I can see your concern about birth control. I was on the depo shot and then the pill for years & I got off the pill in August & my cycles are completely f'd. That being said, I still don't regret being on it because I would not have wanted an unplanned pregnancy with any of my exes.

There's not much more your bf can do than wear a condom when you think about it.

It sounds like you may not be on the same page regarding marriage and kids. Just because he had a kid with BM doesn't mean he wants another one (no offense). Take my DH for example, he never wanted to get married OR have kids, then BM tried to trap him with SD (obviously it didn't work) & he has no respect for her as a result.

I don't think anyone wants to be FORCED to be a parent. It should be something that is wanted and planned by both parties. If your bf really isn't ready to be a father, I think you should either find a form of birth control you are comfortable with or stop having sex with him.

BethAnne's picture

I've one too (on my second now) and I've never had a baby. Some people (including some ill informed doctors/nurses) think it is only for those with kids but it isn't, it works great. way safer than celibacy, you must have nerves of steel if you think you can be celibate with a man living with you. My first one, my partner could feel the strings with sex, but I think it was because the strings were cut too short so were more stubbly, but my second one with my partner (who is better endowed than the last...) he doesn't feel anything, I think because the strings are longer. I even had my second one put in as a form of emergency contraceptive (good up to 5 days after the oops). If you want to avoid hormones make sure you get a copper one.

I've also heard however, that the regular hormonal IUD's are better than normal birth control because they are really low dosage because they are already in the womb.

Basically there are loads of options, do some proper research and find something that will suit you. It may take a couple of attempts to find a match. Please don't rely on celibacy...it won't work, it only takes once and you're out of condoms because you don't use them any more and you are back to where you started.

Jays13's picture

It's an out-dated notion that only woman who've had children can have an iud. And the risk of infertility is due to puncturing upon insertion, which is incredibly rare and not something to worry about if your physician has experience with iud insertions. It's a great option for women.

Birth control pills don't cause infertility. Not sure where you got that from.

OP, look into copper iud's. Hormone-free and lasts for 5-10 years.

AllySkoo's picture

"I would like to be celibate. That was my first suggestion after the issue came up. He threw it out and I feel like using a condom is just asking for a baby."

This actually made me wonder... what would you do about BC once you're married? Getting married doesn't mean you stop BC you know - you only stop when the time is right to have a baby. So, just for example, let's say you get married, have a kid, and then your "6 week waiting period" after giving birth is up. Are you planning on playing Russian Roulette at that point? Or being celibate inside your marriage for the first year or two after your kid is born? I think you need to figure out this birth control thing REGARDLESS of the state of your relationship as it exists now. Talk to your OBGYN, she should be able to recommend something.

JYMCat's picture

I see your point. I'm not really the one putting the emphasis on marriage. He is. That is when he'll feel comfortable having more children. So I'd assume that we'd have to make a decision on what to do depending on when we decide to try again. If I breast feed I shouldn't be taking anything anyway so I don't know.

JYMCat's picture

They're not breaking, They just keep coming off. I don't know what it is about my vagina but sometimes it sucks the condom right off. It's happened in other relationships. Once it happened and I thought my ex threw the condom away. I felt weird all day the next day and decided to do a little "investigating" I found the thing still inside of me. I was absolutely mortified. Took a Plan B in that situation. I warned S/O about it so now I ask him to grab hold of the thing before he pulls out of me but this last time he didn't get a good grip and it came off anyway.

Easylikesundaymornin's picture

Maybe they are wearing the wrong size condoms !!!

Reading this getting a visual I really didn't want in my mind

JYMCat's picture

Sorry

JYMCat's picture

You're married. I'm not. I don't want to make any assumptions about your situation so I won't say that your DH wouldn't care if you got pregnant. I don't feel like I'm obligated to have sex with someone just because we're in a relationship. It's not an ultimatum and it's not even meant to be a punishment. I'm trying to avoid getting pregnant without taking birth control. From the advice I've read today, I guess it's not a realistic option.

JYMCat's picture

I love sex with S/O. I would like to keep having sex and avoid getting pregnant without having to take birth control. But I guess it's not an option. S/O is the first person I actually want to have kids with. Anyone else I've dated I haven't wanted any. Other's have tried in the past and I took Plan B. I felt that I was finally safe in my relationship and wouldn't have to take emergency steps to prevent pregnancy. I've just got to accept that fact that its my fault for thinking that way. I was honest and up front with him in the beginning of the sexual aspect of our relationship and he didn't object. It only became an issue after the first scare. Then it opened my eyes to the fact that even though he said he wants a family it definitely isn't right now and it may not even be with me. So my knee jerk reaction is to protect myself. Maybe I need to edit what I feel a man who is committed to me would do.

AllySkoo's picture

Not to speak for her, but I think that "when we try again" bit was in reference to my hypothetical situation - they get married, have a kid, and then want to wait before trying for another one. She'd need SOME form of birth control, so why not figure that out now anyway?

Edited to add: Oh, and I totally agree that just because he doesn't want a baby right this very minute doesn't mean he's not committed to you! Honestly, some people don't want babies EVER and it doesn't mean they're not committed to their partners, so I don't see why you're making that leap.

JYMCat's picture

I respect his opinion. I just don't think that it should be entirely up to me to make sure I don't get pregnant. He is entitled to his opinion and I'm allowed to not want to put chemicals in my body. I AM committed to him, which is why if I got pregnant, I wouldn't try to get rid of the thing. I think that since both of us don't want me to be pregnant then we should find options other than condoms because they're failing. I don't think I should have to use birth control because of my experience with it thus far but every one who has commented today seems to feel that I should. No one here seems to be supportive of the idea of not having sex at all.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Okay, I think I'm getting to the root of the issue.

You equate having a child with someone as being committed to them. Honey, this is not the case at all. It's like equating sex to love. These are two different things. Two people can be not committed and have children, two people can be committed and not want children. Do you know what actually makes two people committed? This is why it was confusing to us as to why you thought he wasn't committed to you because he wants to wait until marriage to have kids.

Hypothetically, let's say you both want a dog eventually, but you don't want a dog yet until you have a big enough yard for it to play in, one of you has a schedule that can allow for it. Your BF thinks it's fine if he walks the dog twice a day so if one got dumped into your laps, he'd keep it. He then gets mad, when you tell him now's not the right time so he shouldn't be saying to his coworkers/family that you guys are open to adopting a dog because he believes this means you aren't committed to him because you don't want to get a dog right now. He believes you guys are in a place to do so, you don't.

The fact that two people want to stay together and and make decisions on life changing issues like having kids (and I am telling you right now, for one person to decide to have kids against another person's wishes is beyond selfish) and respecting the other person's beliefs, opinions, and desires, is what commitment is about. He didn't say no, he just wants it to be the right time.

When I asked DH if he wanted to have kids, he said yes, eventually. When x was stable, when y was finished, when z has fallen in place, but if we accidentally got pregnant, he was okay with it. Did I think this meant he was more committed to me? No. It just meant he was okay with having kids now if it happened.

I think this is the problem a lot of BM's have, they thought that having someone's child meant commitment, but it doesn't, or else they would still be with the father. Commitment is something you develop and have for sure BEFORE you have kids, as a requirement for having kids under the best case scenario. Kids are only an OPTION after having commitment.

Best advice I can give you is, ask him for a time frame and come together for a compromise of your own. Say he tells you he'd like you guys to be married at 27, and you want to have a child by 28, let him know that if you guys aren't married and pregnant by 27, you will leave, since that's a life plan of yours. He now has a time frame to work with.

JYMCat's picture

It's not that he doesn't want to have kids with me that makes me feel that way. I understand that he doesn't. I don't want to either. The fact that he wants to continue to have sex but leave it up to me to "take care of it" if we have an accident is what makes me feel like he's not committed. He didn't say "baby don't worry about it we'll think of something" he asked me to take a pill that would get rid of the chance of getting pregnant AND screw up my body at the same time. Maybe calling it a lack of commitment isn't the right way to look at it but that's how it feels. To have him tell me he doesn't want another BM kind of hurt my feelings. Especially since I wouldn't be like BM because the kid would be a result of a act we BOTH took part in. I didn't go into every single detail of what he said to me but his words really hurt.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

But... he's not leaving it just up to you. The only thing he CAN use is either a condom or getting a vasectomy. Would you prefer it if he got a vasectomy? Then he basically won't be able to have kids (although some can be reversed). He HAS to leave what happens after an accident to you because biologically he can't do anything about it. Both of you should be doing your part in preventing a pregnancy. He's doing his to the ultimate limit of his ability, you aren't. How is that fair for him?

If you both don't want kids, then why is his asking you to take a pill even an issue? That's the idea of not having kids right, decrease the chances of pregnancy?

It hurts you because you think he is okay with having a kid with BM but not with you, like somehow he values BM's feelings more because he seems willing to have a kid with her. Likely, he didn't even have a choice. That's not willing, that's probably the farthest thing from willing. I think a bigger issue with you an him, before even thinking about kids as a commitment, whether or not he'd like to get married to YOU. He wants to BE married, which is a requirement for him to have kids (which is totally reasonable), but does he want to be married to you, and thus, have kids with you?

Marriage is commitment, it's a promise, a contract of commitment.

See, with DH, I had to realize he was okay either way, having kids or no kids with me. He just wanted ME. If I was, unfortunately, infertile, would that mean he wouldn't be committed to me? Nope. He wanted me, just me, and whether or not we had kids was simply an option. It sounded horrible when he said it, like he didn't care to have kids with me but he and BM had one, but I dug deeper and asked him to clarify, after letting him know his words upset me he had to clarify, and realized it was because I equated kids to love which is NOT reality. It became that he would LIKE to have kids with me eventually, but if it wasn't in the stars, he wouldn't be upset about it because he'd have me.

JYMCat's picture

Him having a baby with BM wasn't his choice initially. She had it with someone else. But he agreed to raise her as his own. I know that's why it hurts so much for him to ask me to take Plan B. I don't feel that a vasectomy would be the only other option. I think that's way more extreme than not having sex at all. I decided to stop taking birth control when I was single. There was no point. I wasn't having sex with anyone and I wanted my next relationship to be the real thing.I guess I'll just have to start again. That's the moral of the story and it may be hard to swallow but I guess I'll just have to do it.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

How does not using birth control, equate to being in areal relationship? How does not wanting a child because you're not ready mean you're not committed? I'm literally not understanding this. Do you just want him to say that it's okay if you accidentally got pregnant? Like that would mean he loves you more than he loved BM or something?

DH and I still use condoms and chart. If we had an accident, I'd take Plan B in a heartbeat. If we got pregnant again, we'd terminate because we are not ready for a second one right now. It doesn't mean we're not committed to each other. We just don't want another child, period dot. That's all that birth control, Plan B, and other methods of contraception are about. It's the prevention of a pregnancy that you don't want. It literally has nothing to do with how much someone loves you.

If you're in a stage of your life that you want to settle down and have kids, then find someone who wants the same thing. Abstaining from any sort of sexual activity is not going to solve your problem of having a partner who is not ready for something you want.

JYMCat's picture

We've never tried. I'm not sure where you read that. Maybe you're referring to my response to a hypothetical scenario another person mentioned? But no, we have not tried. Plan B wreaks havoc on my body. I used to take the patch but I believe that has been recalled and it left scars and a rash where ever I put it on my skin. I would probably forget to take the pill everyday so I need something that won't wreak havoc on my body AND I don't have to worry about forgetting to take.

JYMCat's picture

As I've said, I'm not trying to get pregnant. I feel that abstinence is the only FAIR and 100% way to keep me from getting that way. Everyone else so far feels that birth control is the way to go. Which is why I came here with this issue. To get other people's advice. To see if anyone else agreed that abstinence would be a good option. This has never been about me making him put a baby in me. I'm sorry if it came off that way.

JYMCat's picture

My experience with BC started well before I met S/O. I've been sexually active since I was 17 and I've always used BC of some form or another. The patch worked fine for me and it was after I tried other things. It's no longer available. I hear horror stories about IUD. I thought about the shot but I don't want anything that limits the number of periods I have a year. Since I'm allergic to things like aspirin, and tylenol I have to be REALLY careful what I put in my body as I don't know what exactly it is about those things that I'm allergic to. My reactions aren't minor. My throat and my entire face swell up. I get rashes all over my body. So I'm not just whining. It's a real concern of mine. I don't know what else I'm allergic (other than tomatoes, blueberries, scented laundry detergent, chlorine, and bees) to and I think it'd be a horrible way to find out by experimenting with different chemicals.

JustAgirl42's picture

Since you can't use any form of birth control, and the relationship may end due to abstinence, the only choice I see for you is this:

-use the pull-out method along with a condom just in case
-don't do it anywhere near the middle of your month

otherwise you just have to take your chances and then use the plan B pill. If your SO is good with just a condom, then he must not be THAT afraid of you getting pregnant.

BethAnne's picture

It seems you need to talk to a gynecologist about your options. We can list things all day here but ultimately you need to find something that is right for you. Think about the last time you truely researched and studied all the different options available to you, I am sure that there will be something for you.

The reason everyone is against abstinence is because it is less effective than birth control. Unless you have the willpower of a rock you will end up having sex at some point, you may not think it right now, you may even manage to persuade your partner that he is ok with your abstinence but at some point one of you (or both) will give in to nature, or perhaps your partner will tell you in the heat of the moment, yes honey I don't care about the consequences lets just have sex and if we make a baby we make a baby, then when you miss your period, he will be having second thoughts about it and will ask you to consider plan B again. And when you refuse and you guys have a baby he will feel resentful because he was "trapped" into having another baby he didn't want just yet and you will resent that he didn't really want said baby...it could well eat away at your relationship. Or perhaps he will just break up with you or have an affair due to the lack of action at home.

A much better alternative is to go to the doctors, explain your entire birth control history and tell them you want to know ALL your options, then go away and research those options. Also mention that you have issues with the regular plan B and ask if there are alternatives that may suit you better (so that you are prepared with information in the event of an accident). Even discuss the fact that condoms seem to come off regularly inside you, perhaps they have an answer for that. At the same time you need to sit down with your boyfriend and have a discussion about what the two of you want to achieve before having a baby together and estimate time frames for that occurring. Then pick the best birth control option for you and keep enjoying a healthy sexual relationship with your boyfriend until all the boxes on your checklist have been ticked.

As for IUD's, yes there are some horror stories I've read about them. Some are from older types that are not used any more, some are not, one is from a friend of mine who had one put in just before I had mine put in, but it didn't put me off because it seemed a good method for me. Some people's bodies reject them, but most don't. If you aren't allergic to copper, the copper IUD is what I would recommend, though I'm not a professional. It is inserted once (a little painful, but you'll live), lasts 5 to 10 years, you don't have to remember to take a pill every day and it is non-hormonal, which also means that you get regular (though heavier) periods and pretty much as soon as it is removed your fertility is back to normal. It is said to be a lower pregnancy rate than celibacy because you have to go to the docs to get it removed and it doesn't have the risk of user error that taking pills does.

I know you want your boyfriend to take responsibility, but as others here have said it is unrealistic for him to do more than he is and have kids with you later. I suppose alternatives such as withdrawal method or rhythm method could be used, but they are not that great either and the first is something that the both of you have to do and the second is taking the responsibility to track your cycle yourself.

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Thank you for your advice. I thought abstinence would be easy because we don't live together so we wouldn't have the tease of seeing each other everyday and sleeping next to each other every night but he's telling me that it would damage our relationship and whether I like it or not, I have to deal with it.

I'll take your advice and the advice of a few others here. Before I had a lot of problems that went away as soon as I stopped taking BC so it's scary. I wish there were more BC options for men but I can't single highhandedly change the fact that the entire industry is targeting us ladies. I think it's sexist honestly but it is what it is right now. Bottom line is I don't want a baby right now either. So I'll just have to go back on BC.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to respond and talk some sense into me.

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I understand where you are coming from here. I am personally considering coming off birth control because, like you, I don't like what it does to my body. Although, my SO and I have never used a condom. When I told him my plans, he was like 'you'll get pregnant', and I told him I wouldn't if we took alternative precautions (which he dislikes the idea of). I too was offended because, whilst I don't want a child at the moment either, I feel like he was so quick to make one with someone else. We too have planned marriage and kids into our future, so I understand your frustrations.

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It wasn't an expectation. I want to have sex with him and while I'm willing to accept the consequences should I accidentally become pregnant, he made it seem like he wouldn't be. We talked last night and he said something that someone else had said here. "I can't be that worried if I'm fine with only using condoms". So it turns out that he IS on the same page as me, he just didn't articulate it the first time we had the conversation. That happens a lot. I'm not sure why. I didn't say anything I hadn't said the night before. I didn't bring the topic up last night he did so maybe he had more time to think.

All of you are right though. If this were a different situation I think it would be okay for me not to have sex with someone but in this case I think I read too much into his emphasis on sex. Which is not easy to admit but it's the right thing to do.

Thank you for your advice.

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Thank you for understanding where I'm coming from. While I think most people here are coming from a good place, I know it's hard to empathize when you've never experienced something.

He said he was fine with using condoms and that he has been or else he wouldn't have been having sex with me. So it put me at ease to know that I'm not being forced into taking birth control. I have a period tracker app but I don't know how accurate it is. I have to find that I had a few years ago. It was a lot better.

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Thanks! That's great advice.

Yes, I won't be planning a baby without him. I'm not the trap type of gal. I'd be fine if I don't ever have any children but he wants more of them so I'm open to it. Just not now. We're not married, we don't live together or even in the same zip code and while I'm financially stable he isn't so I'm in no hurry. I just don't want to pump chemicals into my body.