DH wants to get his child a phone?? Is that neccessary?
So DH wants to get SD8 a cell phone because she lives out of state and BM doesn't have a phone. He wants to do this because not talking with his kid is driving him nuts....which I can understand. BM can't afford to have a phone so she wants them to communicate over skype. The problem is that BM is never online for him to talk with his daughter and the connection is horrible (lots of static and interruptions). I don't want to be a meanie, but I do not want to get SD a cell phone for the following reasons:
1. She is only 8 and not responsible enough for a phone. I watch her leave her belongings all over the place when she is here. "Where is your DS?" "I left it at grandmas." That's not acceptable with a phone we are paying for.
2. It would be enabling BM. Financial hardship sucks for anyone, if you got yourself in that situation or it's circumstance. However, I do not want to finance a phone for BM because that is exactly what would happen if we gave SD a phone. It would cease to become the child's phone and it would become the family phone. I think DH is willing to run that risk just to talk with his daughter but I have an uneasy feeling in my gut about this. This is mean to say, but her financial hardship is not our problem. She is getting three times the child support she did in the past and we help with medical bills outside of CS. A cell phone addition is overkill IMHO.
3. Our cell phone bill is already enormous because we have to finance a phone for DH's father (who can't afford a phone). The option of taking him off the phone and giving that line to SD is not an option, especially since his grandma is ill and needs that contact to be open. We simply can't afford another cell phone line. I will know every time I pay this bill that BM will be enjoying a free phone on my dime.
4. A phone in his daughters hands doesn't mean he will talk with her more. She HATES talking on the phone. I see it when she is here. She snubs her nose at talking with anyone over the phone, even her mom. I just don't see her picking up the phone or even hearing it ring cause she has it tucked in a bag somewhere. When BM did have a phone, it was impossible to reach her anyway. He would complain about how she never picks up the phone or gets back to him. What makes him think that will change if he provided a phone?
5. Along with a phone comes great responsibility. I am not comfortable handing over a phone to a child and not being able to explain to her the responsibilities, rules and consequences. Since we would not be there, it would be up to BM to do it and I don't trust her to do it with OUR phone. We wouldn't have the chance to ease her into the responsibility.
I would like DH to arrange something else or have a talk with BM about how this is hampering his relationship with his daughter. Am I wrong in how I feel? Am I out of line? Sorry this is so long.
You have valid points. If
You have valid points. If he's hellbent on giving her a phone, give her a prepaid phone, like a Tracfone. I'm not sure if you can call them or restrict numbers, but it's worth a shot. If you can restrict in/outgoing numbers, make sure the only one is your DH's. That would eliminate texting or worrying about BM using it for herself. Doing it this way also allows you to control how many minutes are used and how much you spend. If SD doesn't talk, no money is spent, the minute balance stays the same.
Make sure you also just get a simple, basic phone. Something without internet access, just calls.
There's also a kid phone, called a firefly.
http://www.fireflymobile.com/store/phones/
Very basic, can't even dial a number, it's pre programmed with emergency numbers and a few extra. Has parental features to monitor usage. You might suggest this to your DH as a compromise. Something like this would have you paying only $10-15/month
Thank you for the info. If I
Thank you for the info. If I will pass it along to DH. IT is an option. Also, if he does this, I will request that it comes out of his beer money and not family finances (since I don't approve of this decision).
I agree. There are also
I agree. There are also principles at play here. I am also afraid of setting a precedent or unrealistic expectations for her. Soon she will expect daddy to buy her a computer since he got her a phone...that whole slippery slope. She is already ill mannered and spoiled, but there is little I can do about that. I guess the real thing that bothers me is that instead of confronting BM about the issue as to why he is unable to communicate with his kid, he goes around it and gets her a phone. My DH has NO BALLS when it comes to BM and will not confront her about anything. I think it's time for him to step up and talk with BM and set some ground rules about communication before buying BM and her whole family a phone! He has tried setting up times and dates to skype and they were not honored and I think it's time for him to stick up for himself.
Ok my FIL bought a new phone
Ok my FIL bought a new phone over the summer and he gave my FOUR YEAR OLD SS his old phone. Whatever, he paid for it and he gave it to him, I kept my mouth shut. There wasn't any money on the phone when FIL gave it to SS (it was prepaid) but when DH said he wanted to put money on it, I put my foot down. I don't know how prepaid phones are in the States, but here in Mx someone with a prepaid phone can send money to another prepaid phone via text message. So I tell DH if we put money on the phone BM is just going to send it all to her phone and I will not finance her phone on top of everything else. Sure enough, FIL puts $20 on the phone Sunday when he is with us and Monday when DH calls SS to see how he is he asks DH to send more money because mommy used his phone. SS had his phone (with no money on it so we couldn't even talk to him) for about a month and then he lost it. DH says it's w BM, she insists he left it with us. I dunno, but I think kids are not responsible enough for phones and you may just be paying for BM to chit chat with all her friends. Not a good idea!
BM has a phone but can't
BM has a phone but can't afford a phone plan. They don't pay for their internet....I think it's WIFI they "barrow" from a friend. He has tried skype over the phone but BM is never online or "available" for chat. Even if she is, the conversations are cut short due to connectivity issues, static and other crap.
Google phone chat??? I will have to look it up! Thank you!
I think the big picture here is availability. BM is never available and I don't think getting the kid a phone will solve it since the phone will ultimately end up in BM's hands. BM was hard to reach before and she will continue to be. SD8 does not like talking on the phone (yet) and I don't see her hearing the phone or picking up the phone unless BM makes her. All in all, it's not very important to BM (i'm only speculating) that SD talks with her dad so she doesn't really make it any easier for us. She's too busy with her own family to "remember" that SD needs to talk with her father on thursday nights.
I think on the firefly phone,
I think on the firefly phone, or ones like it, you can set it up to where it only dials and receives calls from the numbers you put in it. And you can pass code it to where if someone (like BM) wants to put in her friends numbers, she won't be able to with out that passcode. So u could buy the phone and get it all set up before u send it to her and kid will only be able to call u and u call her!! That would be the only compromise I would make. She Is definitely too young for a phone!!!
Ahhh, I did not know that
Ahhh, I did not know that phone with those capabilities exist. If he insists, that's an idea for him. ..but it still comes out of his beer money. The fact is, she is too young and not responsible enough. The fact that he is scared of BM and will not approach her about the whole situation is another topic (yet he is comfortable throwing me under the bus at any time...go figure).