Boot Camps or Boarding Schools For Troubled Teen Girls
I’m at a crossroads of what to do with my SD15. She is an absolute nightmare and I’ve had it dealing with her. She’s a hateful, disrespectful brat. She throws tantrums like a 5 year old when she does not get her way and does not think rules apply to her. She failed 5 of her 6 classes last semester and will be repeating the 9th grade in the fall.
I’m trying to figure out what options in terms of boarding schools or boot camps for troubled teen girls in the US are out there that would work for her.
She’s currently staying with one of her relatives for the summer, but that is not a long term solution and I’m dreading her returning next week.
I’ve given my DH an ultimatum that she can’t return to our home until she complies with a few simple things - agrees to treat me with respect and apologizes, signs the Home Rules Contract we have put together and agrees to accept the consequences of her actions. I hoped this might solve the problems and get her under control, but she absolutely refuses to do any of this and there needs to be consequences.
She says she doesn’t want to live with us and wants to force us to let her stay with her maternal relatives in her home town. She absolutely hates her father and especially me, and wants absolutely nothing to do with us.
Her BM has a long history of substance abuse and mental health problems and lost custody. So, returning to her mom is not an option and the path SD is headed, she’ll turn into her mom in a few years.
So, we need to find some place to send her where she can get the help she needs, and learn some respect and manners.
This is a difficult situation, since she has only has emotional problems but no more serious issues like drugs.
We have threatened to send her to military school or a boot camp, but she says she’ll get herself kicked out so she can go live with her older half-siblings. She is unwilling to go voluntary or admit her behavior or failing at school is a problem. She blames everyone else (mainly her father and me).
We have been talking to admissions people for several therapeutic boarding school for girls, which could be an option. But unless she will voluntarily go and participate in therapy, the more academic schools designed for “good kids who made bad choices" won’t admit her. If she is too defiant or violates rules, she will be kicked out.
I’m afraid we’ll waste tens of thousands of dollars sending her to a boarding school and she’ll find a way to get kicked out within a week just to spite us and force us to let her go live with her maternal relatives permanently. Then it’s just throwing money away.
She is not technically at a point of needing a residential treatment style program where she could be sent to whether she wants to be there or not and that she would be in complete lock-down situation.
SD’s therapist warned us against sending her these types of schools or camps, since these are programs designed for girls with very serious problems (like drugs, violence, suicide, gangs) and SD would be exposed to very negative influences from other kids there and wouldn’t address her problems.
But if her behavior is not going to change, I want her out of my home.
I would absolutely love to send her to a military school where she would be forced to learn respect for others and discipline. Unfortunately, all the military schools that accept girls that I can find are prep schools that require students to go voluntarily, do well on admissions testing and entrance interviews. I contacted one that Rags recommended, and beyond the problem of her not wanting to go and needing to improve her GPA drastically to be admitted, they wouldn’t even accept students with the emotional problems my stepdaughter has.
So, the type of boarding schools or boot camp programs would need to be a forced attendance/lock-down type, but it would also need to be one that is focused on kids with emotional problems (depression, past physical abuse), rather than kids with drug addiction or criminal records.
My DH is concerned about how badly SD would act to get kicked out and whether sending her away would create further problems, so he only wants to find some program where she might be able to get intense therapy and does not want to send her to one of the very strict behavior modification style programs.
But I would call them right now to pick her up and drag her kicking and screaming if it was up to me. I don’t want her back in my home.
It would be difficult financially to afford a camp or boarding school, but we don’t have a lot of choice. We’ve checked with our insurance company and they won’t pay unless she is diagnosed with a serious mental health issue. We’re hoping her paternal grandparents might help pay for some of it.
If she continues to make our home a living hell controlled by her anger and outbursts, someone has to leave. I don’t want to leave my husband, who I love dearly, or break-up our marriage, but I might have to if I see no light at the end of the tunnel and this girl’s behavior is not going to change.
There are three other children in our home that are having their lives disrupted by her. I do not want them to have their parents separate all due to her behavior.
If anyone has any recommendations of boot camps or boarding schools for troubled girls that might work in this situation, please let me know.
This may be a long shot, but
This may be a long shot, but I have a friend whose 15 year old daughter was very hateful, particularly toward her dad and two younger siblings. Very entitled, selfish and lacked any compassion whatsoever. A year ago her mom was really desperate and I did not talk to my friend for a year and when I saw her last, she told me that her family went from the worst year of their lives, to one of the best. She made her daughter go to a week long camp/seminar called Source. It was expensive, 3,000 dollars. Her daughter won't quite talk about everything that they went through, but it sounds like a lot of it was about breaking/overcoming their ego. For the past year, so not just a few days, her daughter has really changed. She just came back from two weeks of volunteering in South America. She no longer draws scary pictures. She is actually happy.
Now, this not a step family. One mom, a dad and 3 kids. All good people.
Maybe look it up. Good luck to you.
My DH went through that with
My DH went through that with our SD (now 22)-- but she was 17 at the time. She was refusing to go to school, refusing to do anything around the house. Hitting her siblings. Incredibly disrespectful of me and her dad. Refusing to go to therapy. Lay around the house sleeping all the time, etc. Ended up doing a Youth at Risk petition through the courts -- and got a court order that forced her to do things things, etc. I can't remember everything she was doing. It ended up coming to a head and my DH ended up kicking her out of the house. She was completely out of control. She went to live with her maternal grandmother.
She came back 3 different times after that, and each time he kicked her back out because each time same thing would happen again and she would be awful yet again.
If she is going to "waste" your money, I wouldn't waste your money on boot camp, etc. Plus if she would be exposed to some worse behavior that wouldnt' be good. Maybe living with some different family, with some rules such as attending counseling and possibily medication (?) and she needs to bring her grades up to a certain level in order to remain at the relatives. If she doesn't follow what rules are maintained on the list, then she would come back home and a new plan would be put in place.
I wish you the best ....I hope it has a happy ending. Been there.
Just to clarify, "Source" is
Just to clarify, "Source" is not really a boot camp. It's a camp/seminare that people willingly pay quite a bit of money to participate in. The vast majority are adults. I think the main point they make is that most of our problems stem from concentration on our ego and if we learn to see that , we can hopefully move on to a better life . I am a bit skeptical, but the results are pretty entriguing.
With any sort of therapy, the
With any sort of therapy, the only way someone gets anything out of it is how much work they put in to it. That’s the issue with my SD - she blames everyone else for her problems and won’t admit she needs to do anything.
The problems with my SD are all a result of her being uprooted when her grandmother (who had custody of her) died eight months ago. But instead of accepting this and making the best of it even though she was a huge disruption on our lives (we had to move to a bigger house) she’s rebelled against everything and made her being here very stressful and a constant headache.
SD doesn’t want to live with us. I don’t want her to live with us. The only person who wants her to be here is her father so he can pretend he’s being a parent and making things up to her. It’s not working for anyone.
She’s been in therapy, she’s been prescribed antidepressants, but nothing has helped. She won't accept she has to live with us and act like a decent human being.
Prior to her moving in with us, she got good grades and wasn’t in trouble. So, the school and her therapist are constantly blaming me and my husband for her problems. But she was also used to being treated as if she was an adult when she lived with her grandmother. She’s never been treated like a child, but she acts like she’s 5 when anyone tells her no.
There's absolutely no way to motivate or punish her. She refuses to make friends here and all she wants to do is go back to Washington. Taking things away from her doesn't work - since her dad will waffle and he doesn't want to take away her phone priviledges so she can't talk to her friends back home or half-siblings. And the one time we did take away her cell phone for an extended period of time, her half-brother sent her a new one he was paying for.
It’s impossible for anyone to parent a child that refuses to parent them. And my DH has barely had any role in her life before this. He only saw her a few weeks in the summer which were a big vacation spectacular for her and occasionally she’d visit during holidays. You can’t all of a sudden start being a parent when a kid is 14.
He’s not a bad father to his boys. He’s rather strict with them (he was in the military and currently in law enforcement). But after everything his daughter’s been through (especially what happen to have her mother lose custody and have her kids taken away from her), he absolutely cannot discipline her. And now the boys are acting up when she's around.
That’s why I think outside help is the only option. Put her in a camp or boarding school and have them teach her the manner, respect and discipline she hasn’t gotten.
But these camps and schools are rather limited on what they can/can’t do in terms of restraining or confining non-mentally ill or violent kids by legislation. Most only stop kids from running off just by being out in the middle of nowhere and telling them their parents won’t allow them back in the house if they don’t complete the program, which means they have no where to run to. My SD would be thrilled to hear that and she can get her half-siblings to come pick her up. That’s why those programs wouldn’t work for her.
Regarding her thinking that
Regarding her thinking that she can live with her half-siblings if she gets kicked out of a school/camp, she is still a minor and she can't live anywhere that your DH does not approve. As he is in law enforcement he should be aware of this. Perhaps he is actually considering it? It does not sound like something that would be good for her but maybe he simply doesn't know what to do and is leaving it as an option?
She is aware that she can't
She is aware that she can't live with her half-siblings unless her father approves of it. Her father had allowed her to live with her grandmother for 8 years (part of which he was in the military and deployed in Iraq), so she's well aware of the legal requirements. She even has the paperwork he needs to file to give her sister guardianship printed out and ready for him to sign.
She's currently staying with her half-sister, who's in college and a veterinary student, for the summer. Letting her stay with her sister full time just isn't practical with her classes and work at a vet clinic. My DH has nothing against her sister. It's honestly just not fair for her to have to raise her sister. Her half-brother, only the other hand, is only 18 and has issues. If she ran away, he would be the first one to help her.
What happened was that when their grandmother passed away, my SD came to live with us and her half-sister ended up with guardianship of her brother. My SD was pissed off they couldn't all stay together. After the incident that caused her mother to lose parental rights, my DH had the option of full custody of his daughter, but that would have separated her from her siblings, so he allowed the grandmother to have custody so they all could stay together and didn't change the agreement even after he got out of the military.
If you do choose to send her
If you do choose to send her to a boot camp, please be very careful. A number of programs have, in recent years, been shut down and had administrators charged with child abuse. A few children have died in poorly-run camps. Research is your best friend.
Frankly, I don't think she'll change until she wants to. But it's good for her to know that when she wants to fix things, you and her father will be there. My foster sister barely graduated high school, was into drugs and alcohol, and was influenced greatly by her former-prostitute-now-a-druggie biological mother -- and then she got pregnant. She went to my mom, said "I need help" and got it. She's clean and doing well in culinary school now. Some people never decide they need help... but you can't fix that, and you shouldn't let that stress you. Feel good that you're doing everything you can, and keep doing what you think is best.
You mentioned she has a therapist. Does the therapist have a recommended course of action?
I seriously need to vent
I seriously need to vent about her therapist.
Her therapist is utterly useless. He has no understanding of the problems with blended families and is exacerbating the Daddy Guilt my husband is feeling by focusing on the negative things that happened to SD when she was living with her BM nearly 10 years ago and stressing the need for SD to be coddled and reasons she should not being held responsible for her actions.
It’s quite a racket that therapist have - convincing parents they need to keep spending more and more money on therapy or their kids will end up ruined. But SD’s behavior has gotten progressive worse since she started it. And of course, that means more therapy.
There’s a certain point where you can’t keep excusing her behavior on things that happened nearly a decade ago. The fact that she was in a bad, abusive home when she was little was terrible, but it shouldn’t give her the ability to do anything she wants or to avoid being disciplined for the rest of her life.
I feel like her therapist is undermining our parental authority, especially by advocating things like giving her privileges without her earning them, even when she’s continued to be incredibly disrespectful towards me and bullied and picked on my son.
His advice is not helpful and just keeps giving SD more and more power and control over her father.
My SD is a master manipulator and knows how to use her therapist to convince her father to do what she wants - like being able to go to stay with her half-siblings for the summer.
That’s why I feel like she needs to go to an program that’s completely away from her dad or people she can manipulate, so she can get a dose of reality and learn basic concepts like how to act civil and that you have to follow rules even if you don’t like them that she should have learned years ago.
My BF's daughter is being
My BF's daughter is being sent to boarding school (in France because that's where she lives) because she doesn't get along with her BM and there is just no way she's going to come live with us. She and I do not get along and I suspect that my BF is afraid I will leave him if she does. I've tried my hardest to get her to see me as a friend and not The Enemy but she refuses to see past her jealousy of me. She seems to be happy to be going to this boarding school next month, but I have a feeling that she is picturing it to be some cool Harry Potter-esque type place. Personally, I hope it does work out for her, but I'm also hoping it teaches her some much needed lessons, too. She actually spent the summer with her grandmother in Canada because the idea of her being with us for her usual five week summer break with her dad was not seen as a good idea. Her dislike towards me has escalated over the the last year. I might have to see her for two weeks in October, though, so I'm already dreading that. Otherwise it looks like weekend visits every now and then work best for now. I'll be sure to post about any significant changes (if any) once she gets further along into her boarding school. It's a hard call, really, what might work best for a difficult teenage SD. :?
Boot camp is a good move
Boot camp is a good move towards to have total transformation. I've been on a boot camp before. I enjoyed and as well got the right treatment that I gain joining the boot camp. I would definitely suggest to you to be in a boot camp
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I hope you can find the right
I hope you can find the right boarding school for your SD. I know there's a lot of boarding schools for problem teenager out there that will suit for her. If you heard about therapeutic boarding school, it will helps her to make her to be a better daughter someday and the school will help to improve her behavior. And your decision will also depends on you if you want to help her without leaving your husband and your SD. Good luck.