Future SS8 still asking me for everything.....
I usually do not post much about my soon to be SS8. This past week has been very trying on me. SO and I have had little spats here and there nothing about SS8 just normal couple crap.
I went to a picnic on Sunday and was planning on going just me as it was a reunion with a bunch of people that I use to work with many years ago. I figured SO really would not want to go as he knew no one there and SS8 he would get bored. Originally neither wanted to go but than SS8 said he wanted to like an hour before. I checked to make sure it was ok he came and it was. I really did not mind taking him he is a well behaved kid and will play with other kids so easy.
Last night I went into our bedroom to just relax and unwind to get away from it all to have like 30 minutes me time. SS8 comes in and lays on the bed, I was like I thought you were hanging out with daddy. SS8 said no I want to be with you. No his daddy did not try to send him into me he just came in. Eventually I coaxed him back out to his dad and got 10 minutes to myself and laying in bed with my furbabies.
Usually at night he will watch a little TV but it was taken away from him that night as he left the one door open and the dog came into the garage as I was pulling out so I had to stop get out put the dog away.
This kind of behavior has been constantly going on. He still is always like ASH can I do this....Ash can I have that.....Ash Ash Ash. His dad is sitting right there next to me. My SO does step in and answer or will help him with stuff if that is what he is asking for. It never stops lately and I am wondering why he is like this, if it will always be like this? I figured it would have dies out a little and went back to asking his dad for stuff all the time like he use to before we moved in. When I was with my SO and SS8 on the weekends SS8 never asked me for things only his dad.
I am tired and exhausted lately, he is at that age where they ask a million and one questions and it seems I get the most of it all the time lately. This morning what is the mileage on you car really......?
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He is like this because he is
He is like this because he is not used to ever asking dad for anything. In the past it was his grandma and aunt.. now it's you. Dad was never an authority figure for him.
This is the last time I am
This is the last time I am going to say this my SO was not as absent as all of you think. When he was home and not traveling he did all the child rearing himself.
He does know how to parent his kid and he is still learning as all parents do as their kids grow older.
He use to ask his dad for everything before we moved in together. When SO was home SS8 went to his dad for things he needed or wanted. He did not go to his g-parents hardly ever.
If I thought what you are
If I thought what you are saying was true I would agree. If SS8 really saw his g-mom and auntie as his parental figures don't you think when they were around he would be running to them asking them for everything instead of me....... When SO's family is around he sits there and with still be like Ash...Ash...Ash....
Just simply asking not getting defensive just really trying to understand.
SuperJew, likening this to
SuperJew, likening this to dogs is a good point. Dogs learn by repetition.
Ash, can I have...? You need to ask your dad.
Ash, where is my...? Your dad knows. Ask him.
Ash, I want... Go check with your dad.
Doing things for SS sometimes and not others is confusing. Repetition is the key. He will eventually learn that Dad is the one he needs to go to for things.
Do you remember posting about
Do you remember posting about not wanting grandma and aunt to hang out with the 3 if you? You posted that they did everything for SS. Stuff that you felt you should be doing.
Those blogd/posts made it crystal clear what role grandma and aunt played in the boy's life. Based on your blogs, you wanted them to step back so that you could step inti their position.
Based on what you hsve have posted, the kid going to women for everything is to be expected. Dad did not do the MAJORITY of the parenting.
He may have done some stuff when you were around. That is the normal MO for lack parents who are trying to impress a new SO. Read the blogs about the useless BMs who go into MOTY mode when they have a new man on their arms. Your SO pulled the same stunt on you.
His FOTY act in front of you and his son's actions now do not add up.
I'd forgotten that, Disney.
I'd forgotten that, Disney. Good points.
SS is used to having women
SS is used to having women (aunt, grandma) take care of his needs. So he sees you as a female as the one who will get him what he needs/wants.
Kinda... my SO's dad was very
Kinda... my SO's dad was very present and did way more for SS8 than the aunt or g-mom did. SS8 use to ask his g-dad for things all the time too they are really close. SS8 use to ask his dad or g-dad for things before anyone else.
Then who knows why he's
Then who knows why he's asking you now... if it's annoying tell your SO to put a stop to it or keep redirecting SS to ask his dad. It's probably because he knows you will say yes or do whatever he is asking of you.
Go back to it is a very long
Go back to it is a very long interesting weekend post and a response I have mentioned his g-dad does way more than the females. I have mentioned it before on here. It is not new.
You started with the aunt
You started with the aunt being the main "parent". Then you made her a drunk and said grandma was the main parent. Then you made her the crazy old lady and made grandpa the main parent.
The role reversal posts didn't take place until posters started pointing out that you were trying yo box out aunt and grandma.
His whole world has been
His whole world has been turned upside down. He's used to asking the women not Dad for things so now that means you. It is exhausting. Your SO should be stepping in and addressing the majority of these things. That's parenting and consideration for you as his partner. He seems content letting you do the heavy lifting. Trust me- it gets more exhausting. Are you up for that?
Thank you this is really
Thank you this is really helpful. I really appreciate how you put everything.
I like how you suggested that my SO take the lead and try to engage with his son by playing games or suggesting they do stuff together instead of the kid. Now that you said that, I will say my SS8 is usually the one that asks to do things and SO most generally will do it. Like throw the baseball or watch a movie or play a game. I think it could help if my SO initiates it more.
I do not think anything you said was mean, it was very helpful and I appreciate it.
Ash.. in the end, does it
Ash.. in the end, does it matter "why"? Do you care if it happens or not?
If you don't want to be saddled with the primary parental role in the home and be the primary focus of the boy then you are going to need to firmly redirect the boy to his father each.and.every.time.
Ash can I have a drink? "go ask your father"
Ash can I hang out with you? "go hang out with your father, I need some time"
Ash can you read me a story? "Ask your dad if he will read you a story"
Ash can we go get ice cream? "ask your dad when he gets home"
I have a feeling that you welcomed and liked the little kid's attention. It was a little ego snack to you that he liked you and you got "happy family disease". You would do maternal things like care for the kid's needs, cook meals for the three of you.
A lot of women do that with boyfriends.. try on the 'wife shoes". Cook and clean for the guy to model how good a wife they would be. My YSD does it.. cooks for her BF when on her own she would be more likely to eat pizza rolls. She is trying on the wife shoes. You tried on the "mommy" shoes and the kid got used to it.
Plus, he was used to going to people other than his dad for things.. so there you go.
Again, either it's ok or it's not. If it doesn't bother you then these posts are little "humblebrags" telling people how much the kid loves you. If it does bother you, you know how to fix it... stop being the kid's go to and make dad do it.
Again, either it's ok or it's
Again, either it's ok or it's not. If it doesn't bother you then these posts are little "humblebrags" telling people how much the kid loves you. If it does bother you, you know how to fix it... stop being the kid's go to and make dad do it.
^^^^^^^^^^
EXACTLY what I was thinking...
That sounds like a really
That sounds like a really good idea, I might do that, LOL.
It's an annoying age. My SS
It's an annoying age. My SS is 8 and hovers around me talking complete nonsense in a woodchuck voice. I wish I was kidding. However, I've been around long enough that I have no problems telling him to go play somewhere else when I need some space.
Oh man thank goodness it is
Oh man thank goodness it is not a woodchuck voice....at least not yet.
From my experience (I also
From my experience (I also have SS15 who I met when he was 10) it doesn't get better until they start Jr high and want to stay in their room all the time.
I am so confused. Isn't this
I am so confused. Isn't this what you wanted? I mean back when you first started posting, it was all about how Auntie and MIL needed to slow their rolls and learn their places now that you were in the picture. You and your boyfriend were going to be buying a house and it would be just the three of you and that you three needed your space to figure out your "family" dynamic yada, yada, yada.
Well here you are girl, got your house and your nice little "family" and now you're complaining about the kid treating you like "mom"?? What exactly did you expect the kid to do? He's used to treating the female figures in his life like mom.. he knows nothing different.
Thank you again so much. I
Thank you again so much. I really really appreciate your advice and helping me with the root of this post. I am struggling with my role.
I am happy you are putting things pretty blunt. I do like that.
You opinion, if I choose to fully engage and fill that spot of "Mom" what would you think? What would you tell a friend of yours?
The whole future dynamic of
The whole future dynamic of your "family" is really up to you at this point. You are at a pivotal point here. YOU have decide what you want. Do you WANT the "mom" role? If so, then you need to play that role, but as you've already figured out, sometimes it's difficult to play "mom" to a child that is not of your loins. If you don't want to play the "mom" role then you need to consistently redirect your SS every single time he comes to you for food, for help with non-emergency things, with inane questions etc. "ask your dad" AND you need to be more accepting of his Auntie in that she is very happy to play the "mom" role. let her!! It truly takes a village.
In my opinion, the more people who truly care about and want to be involved in the life of a child, the better!
But it's up to you where you go from here. What I fear is that you tried so hard in the beginning to make it just the three of you, that disengaging now is going to be confusing and hurtful to this boy.
Thank you. Aunt would be more
Thank you.
Aunt would be more than happy to fill that mom role. She has never really been able too and still is not able to because she has a job that is very demanding 4 to 5 months out of the year. Since we moved in all of us she comes over and has taken him for sleep overs but she also has gone two weeks without seeing him because of her job. I truly think at this point she is really ok with just being the aunt. I really do not think my SO wants his sister to fill the mom role.
From what I posted on here I can see why people think I would try to keep it just the three of us. I can tell you I have not done that. My SO's family is around like every weekend still. Not the mom she is in FL.
Auntie did take SS8 school supply shopping. No big I realized I was being petty.
As for the disengaging I have no plan on doing that and I agree with you if I did it would be really hurtful and confusing for SS8. Since having a child around 24/7 is all new to me, I am wearing out a little. Thank you again for the advice.
lol, SS is like that with me
lol, SS is like that with me too - and dad is very present and active.
Sometimes when I'm full up on SS, I just laugh and say go ask your dad... then when he's off to find his dad, I sneak off into the garage.
We have a table, couch, radio etc out there... it's more like a family room with cement walls... and I have a lock on the door that latches much like a bathroom stall latch...
...or... and especially if dad is with me at the time of the request, I'll answer and tell him "I'm sure your dad will help you with that"...
Be flattered. It's annoying... but it's sweet (IMO). It won't always be like that, they tend to lose their clingyness around 10 or 11, I find...
Thank You. At times I am
Thank You. At times I am flattered. I think this week was just really overwhelming. Thank you for the positive perspective.
Um, he asks you because you
Um, he asks you because you answer.
That whole story about you going to lie down and SO not knowing where SS was, and instead of you booting SS and instructing SO to take care of his child, you just coax him out and have 10 minutes for yourself. Ridiculous.
I'm married to my DH and we have a DD together. If I go off for 30 minutes on my own, it is crystal clear that I am not going to be interrupted by DD or DH. If DH allowed that, I'd be furious. Just like when he sleeps in or wants some time to work on his studies, I take care of DD. Including instructing her that DH is busy now, and to leave him alone.
Set and enforce boundaries. Do not feel guilty. Even if you were this child's parent, he would always want more because kids do. But since you're not the parent, it is just foolishness that your SO is enjoying his free time while you can't expect 30 minutes to yourself.
I wanted to address something
I wanted to address something you mentioned in the Admin, posting this morning.
About your SO. I read this blog when you put it up but did not reply. Now I'm ready to and hope you will take this in the manner it is meant and not think I'm kicking your SO just to be mean.
I don't think your SO is a "lazy" man in the sense he is not a hard working physically active provider. However , I do believe you're still so fresh in this new life that you wear the rose colored glasses and don't like hearing some criticism in some of his ways. I don't think you feel like you can speak up when SO leans on/relies on you a bit too much.
The evening you went in your room to rest and get away from daily life a bit? IMO, you were too hesitant in discussing this with your SO. Every mother, and especially every stepmother needs to make and have 'me' time. It's important . It is important that your SO recognizes this need. It's important that you not feel guilty or 'lessor' because you do need 'me' time.
Your SO is really kind of new at all this too. He worked a lot and was gone. He's just learning what it's like to be around his son 24/7 365. Parenting is work and it's time consuming. He's always had Mom, Dad, and Aunt to help him out and now he has you. But you need to make certain that he does not lean too heavy on you. It will eventually build resentment and burn you out.
Your SS should not be entering your bedroom without knocking and waiting for if you allow admittance. You went in their for quiet and privacy. There is nothing wrong with him coming in IF he knocks and you agree. It's ok to say "honey, not right now, Ash needs a bit of lazy time" or however you want to put it.
Yeah, I understand SS is banned from TV or something like that right now, but SS being bored is not your problem 24/7. SS can go and find Dad and Dad can either entertain the kid or Dad can tell his son to go read a book. It's going to be an adjustment for SS too in your new household. SS is use to having grandparents and Aunt around. There was always somebody around. The secret no one told you though is you can bet they got and made 'me' time. One took 'kid break' while another of them took over. That's not happening for you.
There should have been no reason to take SS along to the picnic. Dad and SS should have did an activity together or just be lazy and hang around home spending time. Even if it was playing a board game or laying in the lawn recliner watching birds. You need Ash time and they need father/son time or they both need their own 'me' time where they each do their own thing at home.
All that to say, IMO I think the idea of SO being "lazy" comes more from Dad having to step up and remember he is now the sole parent 24/7 365. Yes, you're there. And yes, you want to build and bond as a family. But you can not let SO fall into leaning too hard or putting too much of the parenting on you. You just can't. Every SM here has went in the same way. Eager to please and trying to hard. I think for the main part some have been trying to get this clear to you. I don't know, maybe some of us have tried too hard to help you not make the same mistakes some of us made. Don't burn yourself out. Don't take on more than you're willing and able to do and realize it's ok to say 'SO, your son would perhaps like to spend some time with you' and dash out the door. Whether that's to relax in your room or go to a picnic or shopping or just go for a walk.
yeah, we know, Dad gets tired and needs relaxing too...but bottomline is he is the parent. It is his job to parent 24/7. It's his job to guide the kiddo to go self entertain if Dad needs to relax too. You need to set boundaries for what you decide your limits are. And you must never feel guilty for doing so.
I think you and So and SS will do fine. But it takes time and you must remember to always make 'me' time. It's also extremely important to remember that SO and you need couple time. Don't be afraid to hire a babysitter sometimes.
Responses like this I never
Responses like this I never take as being mean. This is helpful and full of advice. I was referring to others that just commented your SO is lazy and had nothing more to contribute other than to say that.
I do try to carve out me time. I am going to diner with my friend this week and I really did not mind taking him to the picnic, if I had I would have said no. He is clingy as hell lately but he is an easy kid too. I laid down the ground rules before we got there say please say thank you. I will be talking to people I have not seen in a while so you will have to let me. He did.
Last night my SO and I had a conversation about a few things. I told him to take his dog to SS's football practice. The dog being there is really not relaxing for me right now as I can not let my furbabies run free when he is there or I have to lock him up. He gripped and I laid into him.
I have taken alot of advice on here and I do stand up to my SO. I do not post about it because I just do not feel the need. I truly do not let him take advantage of me.
He is stepping up and doing more and more. There are somethings he needs help with. He had no clue he could renew vehicle stuff on-line, or fill out a part of the form to pay a bill instead of using a check. I look at him like "REALLY"....... than I remember he had two parents that enabled him (not an excuse) and instead of forcing SO they just did stuff. Partly my SO should have stepped up but he didn't but he is now. It just amazed me all the time his parents would say he does not know how to do stuff, kinds tore him down yet they raised him. Just odd.
Thank you for this post these are things I come on here for to give me perspective, to point out things that I need to do different and that my SO should. You said the same thing kinda like RosaluOsliar about SO entertaining him by suggesting to do things just the two of them. That really helped and made me realize while he does do things with his kid he is not one to always initiate it and he does that with me some too. I really do appreciate these kind of posts. They are not mean they give advice and it is not all about bashing on my as a newbie.
Again thank you so much I do find this very helpful.