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OT- WTF is wrong with some of these teachers anymore??

BSgoinon's picture

SS has had a stomach ache for a few days. It's only the 2nd week of school so he didn't want to stay home. He tried to go. He's sitting in his 1st period class and tells the teacher he needs to go to the office. She tells him no. WTF??? So, he texts me. I call the office and the response I get is "he's not supposed to be using his phone in class".

Ummm EFF YOU! If his teacher won't let him leave class and he is sick, he is most certainly allowed to text me. And if you don't like it you can kiss my ass. He better not get in trouble. I will raise hell.

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BSgoinon's picture

I most certainly did. I am furious right now. My kid has had perfect attendance since the 3rd grade. If he says he is sick and needs to come home, he is f*cking SICK and needs to come home.

BSgoinon's picture

He wanted to go to school. And I thought it was (and probably is) stress because he knows we have court this afternoon. He isn't GOING to court. But he knows it is today. He thought school would distract him. He wanted to try.

And screw them. This kid NEVER misses school. If he says he is sick, then he is sick damn it. He shouldn't have to text me. His teacher is not the school nurse. If the nurse wants to send him back to class, that is different.

BSgoinon's picture

He doesn't normally. That's how I know he is sick. He turns his phone off when he gets to school. I get that she doesn't know his history, but she doesn't know any of their history. She can't assume he is faking any more than she can assume he is telling the truth. That is up to the nurse. If she wanted to be a school nurse then she should have been a school nurse. Not a teacher.

Trust me, I get what you are saying, but I won't be mad at my kid for texting in class if his teacher won't let him go to the office when he is sick. That's just not ok. What if it was something serious? I would have no choice but to have sued her if something happened. And, they were watching a movie... it's not like he interrupted her lesson. They are literally watching a Disney movie the 2nd week of school.

DaizyDuke's picture

I agree with Lady and the school. My word, what would he have done in the days before cell phones. He would have stuck it out or he would have insisted to the teacher that he was going to be sick and needed to leave. There is not much that annoys me more than student's getting on their cell phones and "tattling" during class.

DaizyDuke's picture

YES!!!! Teachers can never win. Either you're a jerk for not letting the kid go to the nurse/bathroom, or you're a jerk for letting the kid go and get sent home or wasting the day away in the nurses office, because they were just trying to get out of doing something they didn't want to in class.

I would do what lady said and just email the teacher a quick note... "Hi Teacher, Johnny wasn't feeling well this morning but didn't want to miss class so he came to school. Just wanted you to be aware in case he asks to go to the nurse or bathroom.. he's not trying to pull one over on you!"

BSgoinon's picture

WE have open house this week, I will talk to her then. It just bothers me that he really was sick and was told to sit down. He's not the kind of kid to defy authority. I told him to just go next time. He looked at me like I had aliens climbing out of my ears.

BSgoinon's picture

I'm not going to say a word to his teacher. I just don't like that my kid was trying to tell his teacher he was sick and she told him to go sit down. My mom picked him up from school and she said he has been blowing up the bathroom since they walked in the door. Have you ever had to shit so bad it hurt and couldn't get to a bathroom? It sucks. He has 8 teachers, I don't need to tell all 8 of his teachers he woke up with a stomach ache. He is 13 years old. If he doesn't feel well, he should be able to tell his teacher he doesn't feel well. Trust me, these teachers know who the kids that are a concern are. If I know who they are, then they certainly do. Teachers talk. They know who to keep an eye on.

I won't tell him not to text me if something like this happens in the future. He has to try his teachers first, which has ALWAYS worked for my kids in the past.

BSgoinon's picture

We have the same rule. You get up, get dressed and try to go. How many times do I wake up feeling BLAH, but once I shower and get going, I am fine. Same goes for the kids. Unless they are vomiting, or have a fever. They go.

SourGrapes's picture

What is wrong with people? If your SS threw up in front of his class that would be so embarrassing for him. I would the same way you do, which is that I would raise Hell if they attempted to punish him. Hope he feels better.

BSgoinon's picture

Hey Danielle, be nice. He's a kid, that knew his parents were going to court that afternoon, with a meth addicted mom trying to force him to live with her. Cut him some slack. Sheesh. Maybe that's why he had the shits. Stress will do that to you sometimes.

Have you ever had diarrhea in public? It sucks. Have you ever had it in front of 30 of your peers at age 13? That REALLY sucks. Trust me, I don't coddle my kids. But I refuse to allow him to have to clench his cheeks while he's made out to be some sort of delinquent. He's never been in trouble in his life. Ever. I sent him to his room ONCE when he was about 4 years old for hitting his sister with a plastic sword. That's the extent of his delinquent history. So while the principal was riffling through his phone and the secretary was telling him how his mom called the school ANGRY (not true, I was calm and respectful and just asked that they please send him to the office to be picked up) his stomach was in knots. He got home and RAN to the bathroom and pooped his brains out.

Now he has to give 4 days worth of stool samples to be tested.

If you can't have a little bit of empathy for a kid, then just don't bother reading my posts. It would be a waste of your time. My SS deserves a little bit after all he's been through this year.

Tuff Noogies's picture

yeah i'd be pissed too. i miss the days of school nurses who would watch you for a few minutes and determine whether to call a parent or not. it would NOT have been pretty if i got warning signs of an impending migraine and got told No by a teacher.

Last In Line's picture

Ahh, way back in 2nd grade I had a teacher refuse to let me head to the bathroom when I was sick. Being a rather meek, non-confrontational child, I stayed put. Our desks were clustered into groups of 4. I vomited bright orange cheeto puke all over those four desks. That teacher never refused to let me go to the bathroom again.

BethAnne's picture

I would usually er on the side of caution and send a note to school with the child saying they had had a stomach ache but now feel good enough to go to school but that if his stomach ache came back to please call me on x number and I will come and collect him.

Anyway, try not too let school distract you from court this afternoon. I hope it all goes smoothly for you.

notasm3's picture

The teacher didn't see me raise my hand (we had 3 classes in the same room with 1 teacher during the post war baby boom years), and I projectile vomited all over the little boy in front of me. That little boy was scarred for life I'm sure.

The teacher told me that I could just get up and leave if I ever felt like that again.

twoviewpoints's picture

Did SS actually tell the teacher why he wanted to go to the office? That e felt sick with stomach upset? Of all the years I've ad kids in school, I've never had a teacher not immediately race a sick kid from the classroom. Who wants kid barf and smell in their classroom?

Poor kid. I hope he feels better. It may just be stress and anxiety over the court hearing, even so, if he doesn't feel well, he doesn't feel well. Sick children learn nothing classroom wise if his tummy is aching. Refusing a trip to office and school nurse was ridiculous on teacher's part.

I will say, it would bite him in the *ss in my school district however, for having the cell in the classroom. Phones here are to be turned off and kept in students lockers. The phone and the sick with office refusal are two different incidents and should be treated as such.

I would have to first get the refusal to go to office as a sick student handled first. Teacher was wrong. Then stand back and let my kid take his knocks for disobeying phone rules. Our student handbook has a page and a half of phone at school usage and procedures.

BSgoinon's picture

He said he told his teacher that he really wasn't feeling well before class even started. Then they started watching a movie and his stomach was rumbling. He asked to go to the nurses off and she told him to sit down.

ESMOD's picture

I have heard of teachers/schools with these policies because they are trying to limit disruptions. Not sure if this is a policy in your school and if it is, if it is new.

My thought would be that if you are imminently going to actually throw up/have diarhea or pee in your pants, you ask and if not given permission, you have to just go anyway because "nature" isn't going to wait.

In this case, the only thing I might say is that the boy didn't say he had to go to the bathroom, he said office. That tells me that what he was dealing with was not an urgent need to be dealt with and interrupt the class. He could have sat through the remainder of the period then gone to the office. If he was actually getting ready to throw up and needed to go to the BATHROOM, the teacher would have had no business denying THAT request.

I mean, how long is a period at his school.. maybe an hour give or take? Unless he had screaming appendicitis, I don't think waiting until after the period was over was too harsh. Again, if we are talking a biological need.. I would have a big problem with that, but I'm not sure the teacher was 100% out of line for wanting him to wait until after class. It wasn't like he was going to be denied the ability to go home all day.. just had to wait for one period to be over.

BSgoinon's picture

He had diarrhea. He had to use the nurses bathroom before my mom could even get him in the car to take him home. Then he blew up the bathroom at home too.

ESMOD's picture

That's fine but is that what he told his Teacher? He asked to go to the office, not the bathroom. He asked the wrong thing. Being excused to poo is different from her perception that a request to go to the office is not an urgent need.

I am not disputing whether he was sick.. I am trying to see if there may have been a legit reason that the teacher didn't let him leave class and it is possible that the request to go to the OFFICE wasn't seen as an urgent request.

BSgoinon's picture

Let me make it clear here, I am not one of those moms that thinks the world owes it to her kids. I know my kids are human, and they are teenagers. I get that teachers very often get the short end of the stick. My best friend is the PTA president, I am very involved with the school and my daughter had this same teacher 2 years ago. We had no issues. At all. None of my kids have ever been in any kind of trouble at school. Ever.

This just bothered me.

moeilijk's picture

I'm glad he could reach you. I think you might have to teach him to be more assertive in situations like this. He's getting older now and is responsible enough for more independence.

There are schools that don't let kids use the bathroom at all during class time anymore. That's just not reasonable for a lot of kids. And he needs to learn to take care of himself, literally.

notarelative's picture

Poor SS. It's really hard on kids on court days.
You are not allowed in court (and don't want to be there); you go to school as you want to be normal (whatever that is). And then the stress you are under causes physical ailments.

SS has learned a lesson. He needs to say lavatory (or bathroom or whatever word the school uses for those facilities). If he wants to see the nurse he needs to say nurse. Requests to go to the office are vague and in many schools the administration gets angry with teachers who send kids to the office unless it is for sickness.
Yes, SS is a good kid, but it is only the second week of school, and teachers are still sorting out who is the kid who asks to go to the office because he is sick and who is the kid who asks to go to the office but really wants to do something else. And while teachers do talk, it's not as much as some assume, and with a teacher having seven or eight classes it's highly unlikely that SS would have been the topic of conversation.

Do speak to the teacher. Let her know what was going on. Let her know SS's previous attendance record. Let her know he doesn't ask unless he needs to. It's two weeks in. The only attendance on her radar is the kid who attends every other day. She hasn't looked at any kid's past attendance.

Hope SS feels better soon.

Hennypenny's picture

He woke up feeling OK enough to try going to school, then went downhill fast. I've had that happen plenty of times in life. And especially with the stomach ailments- the really bad stuff can go from "I don't feel all that good" to DEFCON 1 in an instant.

He wanted to try to go to school but quickly discovered it was a bad idea. He didn't want to shit his pants in class. He asked his teacher for help and didn't get it, so he reached out to his emergency contact. He is 13, sick, and therefore didn't follow protocol How does that make him "so special"??

And BS is only raising hell if gets disciplined for this episode. In fact, said she wasn't even going to bring it up. But I sure as hell would if an authority figure failed to look out for my child's well being and then chastised him for breaking the rules.

ESMOD's picture

From the OP's explanation, he didn't ask for help, he asked to go to the office... which was not the same thing as "I'm going to be sick and need to get to the bathroom".

Ignoring a call to nature is not acceptable, but asking a child to wait until the end of period to go to the office doesn't seem unreasonable.

Hennypenny's picture

He told the teacher before class he wasn't feeling well.

I agree he needs to know he has OP's full support to just leave if it should happen in the future. But in the moment he didn't know what to do. Poor kid didn't want to make a fuss and called mom for help, and now he is some rule-shunning delinquent? Outrageous. I would rip them a new one.

BSgoinon's picture

He had the shits... and was embarrassed. Sorry guys. Some kids still enjoy a little privacy in their lives. To top the whole thing off, when I got home from work SS told me that before he was able to leave the school with my mom, he was sent to the principals office, where they took his phone, READ his texts and gave him detention. The kid had to shit and they made him stay and riffled through his phone.

You wanna punish him for texting in class, fine. I am ok with that. I am NOT ok with them going through his phone without my permission. I will be calling the school.