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WalkOnBy's picture

Last night with Therapist was all about DH. He was supposed to have come up with a launch plan for ASS, which he didn’t fully complete. We realized once we started talking about it, that it was going to have to be far more detailed than we thought. He had come up with all kinds of scenarios, which initially I thought was overkill, but he really wants to have all the bases covered so that the two of us are on the same page and have a “play book” of sorts. Therapist agreed, but put a time table on it.

As we were moving on to talking about how our relationship was going, DH made a passing comment about BabyVoice and how she wants to change one of her classes next semester. It’s an elective class called “Fashion Design” and kids can take it for multiple semesters over multiple years. She took it in 7th grade and now she is taking it again in 8th grade. It is every middle school girl’s dream class and it is actually pretty cool. They design their own patterns, make their own clothes and throw a benefit fashion show in the Spring. My DD25 took it, as did Thing1. He took it because it was a class full of 8th grade girls, but I digress.

Anyway, BV really, really loves this class and the teacher. So much so, that she has taken the afterschool sewing class offered by this teacher every semester since the spring of 6th grade. So to hear her say she no longer wants to be in the class next semester is kind of a big deal. All of the above is background to this:
Therapist asked DH why he thought BV wanted out of the class. He said she wouldn’t really tell him but she did say that some “annoying” girls are in there and she doesn’t like them. I say nothing. Therapist, who has an 8th grade girl herself, says that perhaps it’s just middle school bratty girl shit. DH said no, and then said he didn’t like the way that BV “cuts people out of her life when she has a disagreement with” them. Hmmm, who does THAT sound like??

The session took a turn toward my DH and his seemingly endless guilt about what Medusa has done and how it has impacted the skids. Therapist kept having to remind him that he is NOT the one who has damaged the skids, he is NOT the one who abandoned the skids and he is NOT required to suffer endlessly because of HER actions. He gets to be happy and he gets to let his kids feel their own pain and growth without taking it all on his shoulders……I was like this – :jawdrop:

I guess I am a bitch after all, because while I may have felt bad for one of my kids because of their struggles, or I may have been sympathetic to something going on in their lives, I never took on their pain to the point of paralysis.

So, DH has a new deadline for Operation Exit Plan. We talked a little bit more last night about the various iterations, and I told him that if he didn’t have the plan together by the end of next week, that I would come up with one on my own and he wouldn’t like it – lol!!

And, so it goes….

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WalkOnBy's picture

It is validating...that's for sure.

As for seeing Medusa qualities where none exist? Sadly, he is right. She is a bit of a mean girl and when she has disagreements with friends, she cuts them off and looks for new friends. lather rinse repeat.

I think she is a mean girl, to be honest and let's face it - she watched her mother cut people off for years. She probably thinks that is how you handle disputes.

WalkOnBy's picture

Yeah - count me in this group, too.

It's funny, Therapist basically told him what say above - that they are lucky that they have one normal parent who spent a fortune and sacrificed much to make sure that they were safe.

I will tell anyone who will listen that I took very little credit when my kids did/do something awesome and I took very little blame when they do something not so awesome.

WTF...REALLY's picture

You cannot protect kids from the world. You have to teach them strength of character to handle all the good and the bad that comes at you in life.

if I was your husband, would ask baby voice why she's leaving the class. If it's because some mean girls are in there but she really likes the class, then she needs to suck it up and stay in the class. It's not good to run away from problems.

moeilijk's picture

TBH, it's not even about sucking it up or whatever. It's about being a good parent. Take the time to listen to your kid, allow them to feel bad, isolated, left out, whatever at school and for that to be ok - raising kids isn't about pushing them to suck it up, or to whisk them away from the smell of mean girls, or any of it. It's about teaching her to be ok with HERSELF so that other people don't make or break who she is.

Included in that is teaching her to keep trying to reach her goals, but to try different methods, to teach her that happiness and self-esteem depend on HER and not on if other people like her, and that she can behave well even when she feels bad.

Sometimes, WOB, I get the feeling that your DH just wants to play the hero, and take on all the problems and pains for his kids, and he FEELS all this emotional ANGST about it (sorry, easier to caps than italicize). But that's all about HIM! It's NOT about him, it's about ASS and BV who need to learn that sure, DH has their backs... but that's because he's pushing them to grow.

WalkOnBy's picture

You hit the nail right on the head, moe.

And Therapist reiterated that BV needs to be told that leaving the class because of the mean girls is only giving up her power. But, honestly? I think SHE is the mean girl.

BV refused to talk any more about it.

This is sooooooooo up my alley, but I have to keep remembering that this is not my circus and these are not my monkeys.

WalkOnBy's picture

He did ask her, but she's refusing to talk.

If it were my kid, I would be on the phone to the school counselor to see if she's noticed anything and I would shoot the teacher an email to see if she had noticed anything. Then I would take BV out for coffee and try to get her to talk about it, but that's just me and what the hell do I know??

moeilijk's picture

Lol. I use 'talk about it' with DD2 all the time. To the point that she will yell, from her spot on the timeout chair, "Mummy, talk about it! Mummy, talk about it!"

And if she's really mad? "No, no NO talk about it!"

Lol. If only BV could communicate that well.

WalkOnBy's picture

If only is right.

She just is not a happy girl. She has this scowl on her face all the time and when she's at the dinner table she just sits there and stares off into space.

I sometimes think part of it's an act? I don't know. I know from surly teenaged girls, so I know that it's a part of it, but it can't be all, can it?

robin333's picture

Keep us posted on the launch plan. I'm secretly hoping DH misses the deadline and your plan is implemented Smile

What does BV think is going to happen in a "new" class with the same "old" attitude?

WalkOnBy's picture

Right - and that's what will happen IF ASS decides to go to college. DH did mention that ASS wanted to know if he could live somewhere else over the summer and then go to college in the fall. I said HELL YEAH HE CAN!!!

LikeMinded's picture

Uhgggg this pity parenting thing annoys me to no end. So much guilt, for what?

I can pity a kid who's parent is in Iraq, sure. I refuse to pity my SKIDS because they spend a few days at one house and a few days at another house. They get 2 bday parties, 2 thanksgivings, 2 Xmas's... the list goes on an on. Both sides bend over backwards for them Why the hell should we feel all this guilt. The kids are fine.

Then they turn into grumpy teenagers, who aren't as interested in spending time with the grandparents and oh... it's because of the divorce that happened half a decade ago. It's gotta be.
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Meanwhile my BD13, nobodyypities, even though she's also gone through divorce.

This guilt and pitying is spoiling these kids and we're raising a generation of retards.

ugggggghhhhhh!

notasm3's picture

This is my idea of a plan for that mf ahole:

Turns 18. Dropped off at a homeless shelter. Done.

I do not recommend that course of action for normal children - even those who are somewhat problematic. But this manchild is truly a worthless disgusting POS. He should be discarded as soon as it is legal - like a rotten piece of meat. Useless.