Step kids make me feel like crap
I'm new here, thanks for reading!
I met my BF about 4 years after he and his ex-wife had split. He was the one who wanted out of the marriage, she was devestated, and later moved to another state (about 5 hours from us) to be with his daughter when she was pregnant with her first kid. My husband and I have been together as a couple for 11 years. Another daughter lives in the area near where his ex lives, and his son lives on the West Coast (We live in New Hampshire). My daughter is 26, she has autism and intellectual disabilty. His kids are now 39, 41 and 43.
He told me when we met that his eldest daughter was still pissed at him for ending the marriage, and that the other two kids weren't exactly thrilled with him either, but he maintained a relationship with them and he clearly cared about them. It took a long time but I finally met his youngest daughter who is kind of depressed, super introvert and super shy. Also met the son on the west coast (he wasn't happy about meeting me but agreed to it.) The eldest said she wouldn't meet me until my BF told his ex about me. When the ex learned about me she threatened to kill herself (other family members said she is a histrionic person who over-reacts to everything). She was not really suicidal (I work in behavioral health, I take this kind of thing seriously, but this was clearly not suicide ideation and merely an attention-getting gesture). This was 6 years after they split up. Still didn't meet the daughter.
Several years the eldest refused to go to her cousin's wedding because I was attending, because his ex said she didn't want her grandkids to meet me. We went, and the two other kids who I had met already didn't talk to me until my BF called them on it and they made a feeble attempt to say hello.
(BTW, I am widely considered to be warm, personable, friendly, non-judgmental...well except for about these kids).
Since then I've seen the two other kids several times, they stay with another relative and not us, that's fine with me, I get that it's weird to be in our house, as it's where he lived with them and the ex. They are never friendly but kind of "tolerate" me. I'm low-key, say hello, ask at least one innocous question (e.g., "how was your flight?" ) and don't push any conversation. I'm very close with everyone else in my BF's family, (Siblings, nieces and nephews) they love me and I love them.
My BF's father died last week and his kids all came to the burial. in another state. His eldest came with one of her kids, and asked my BF and others in the family that she didn't want to be introduced to me, and didn't want her kid introduced to me, because of her kid. She also told everyone not to say anything in front of her kid about her own engagement (she was divorced last year) to the man with whom she had had a very long affair, because the kids don't know about her engagement to him (or obviously didn't know about they affair, they are 11 and 13).
So we were at the cemetery together, his grandson had to see that we were together, we were back at his sister's house eating, and at various times I was relatively close to her son and moved away so I wouldn't get in a conversation with him and moved to another side of the room to avoid the daughter. Then we left. The other two kids didn't talk to me either, influenced to be their worst selves by eldest sis.
My BF was totally pissed off at her, partially because she never asks how he is doing, she is very self-centered, etc. and partially because of this situation. He was disappointed in the other two kids but would never say anything to them.
My BF was a great dad, coached sports teams, took them on trips, helped with homework, etc. He is also a warm, caring person. His nieces and nephews adore him. He has a great relationship with his son, and an ok relationship with the other daughter (mostly because she is a non-talker so no one has a good relationship with her except her siblings.) He is also a fabulous step-father to my daughter, caring, compassionate, patient and loving. She adores him as much as her own father. My ex and I have worked very hard to have a good relationship so we can effectively co-parent our daughter, who will never be able to live on her own. (She lives in a group home.)
I don't want to ever be in this situation again, hiding in plain sight. He has no intention of allowing that, but eventually someone else will die or get married, and I know it will happen again. He is a conflict avoider.
I don't want him to cut all ties with his eldest, and the other two kids are ok and I can put up with them saying tepid hellos to me 1-3 times a year or less. His ex is never going to relent on her grandkids meeting me.
I usually attempt to avoid schadenfreude (pleasure derived by another's misfortune) but I have to admit that when my BF told me about her engagement to the man with whom she had an affair, I said "I wish her every happiness and hope that her step-children treat her exactly with the respect and warmth that she has shown me." (To his credit, he did laugh and said he agreed.)
I don't know what I'm asking here, mostly just writing to vent. But if someone has any thoughts, I'd like to hear them.
Thanks in advance for whatever advice you have. Sorry this is so long.
Disengage
I'm sure I'm only saying what others will: disengage. The good news is that these "kids" are adults and you don''t have to endure visitation. You, like most people here, had fantasies of being a warm family member. They have their COD (children of divorce) mindsets and arent going to change. It's not personal, you could be Mother Teresa and it would be the same.
It sounds like your BF is a sensible, good dad. He can keep trying to have his relationships with them, whatever. You have zero responsibility here. If you are in their presence, be polite and civil. That's it, you're done.
It's sad for all of us when we realize our good intentions aren't wanted. That's tough but steplife isnt easy. Good luck.
There's one question that I
There's one question that I have to ask because it would explain a lot - were you the cause of their divorce? If you were, I can understand why his ex is refusing to acknowledge you and poisoning her kids towards you (people can and will hold grudges for decades). If you weren't ... well there's something wrong with the lot of them and you deserve so much better.
"Hiding in plain sight" is a very good expression for what you did at the funeral and it must have made you feel dreadful - an outsider, a pariah. If there is ever a next time when you have to be in the vicinity of these people, do not make any effort to comply with their unreasonable expectations, just be your usual pleasant, friendly self to all around and do not move away to avoid them. Let the buggers deal with it. You are not the problem, they are.
I'm afraid II'm not known for my subtleness nor tact and have to admit that I would have been very tempted to gush at the SD "oh my dear! I was SO sorry to hear that your fiancé broke off your engagement! You must be devastated!" and would have made sure to do it in front of her kids. What a load of crappy lies, whispers and untold truths they all hold between them. Sickening. I hate the mindset that if you don't talk about something it doesn't exist.
What would your husband do if the next time you have to be with them is for a wedding and his son/daughter refuses to invite you? Would he go without you or would he put his foot down?
Winterglow - OP said that she
Winterglow - OP said that she met BF 4 years after he split from BM, so I don't think she is the reason they split. Sounds like a typical, angry BM who can't get over it and has poisoned the poor "children" of divorce well into adulthood.
Thank you. I missed that - no
Thank you. I missed that - no offence intended to OP.
BM needs some serious help...
unfortunately, OP is being
unfortunately, OP is being punished for the sins of their own father... he abandoned their mother.. and so him moving on and anyone attached to him becomes poison and to be nice or welcoming to his new wife is a sign of disloyalty to their mother.
The one and only person these kids should be angry with.. and if they feel so strongly.. estrange themselves from is their FATHER.
I know your DH is a conflict avoider.. but I would so like to have him tell his kids.
Look.. I was the one that left your mother.. I did it because I was unhappy in the relationship. Now that you are adults, you should understand that sometimes relationships become so broken they are not worth saving. I know it hurt you.. and your mother and for that I am sorry. BUT.. my wife had zero part in my decision to leave your mother. I did not even meet her until many years AFTER I had left. If you want to be mad and angry at ME.. fine.. but you will NOT continue to have a relationship with me and treat my wife as a Pariah. She is a lovely person and has no fault in this. If you cannot fully accept her into my life.. accept that I have chosen to have her be part of my family.. and by extension YOUR family.. then I regret that we won't be able to be in contact any further. To be clear.. I love you very much.. but I will not tolerate continued poor treatment of someone I love because your mother is still upset about my leaving years ago. If you want to punish and blame? that can go on me.. and honestly.. your mother as there certainly were things from HER end that contributed to our relationship's demise. but you will not punish and give my wife the cold shoulder.. you will not force her to lie about our relationship. I am done playing your games.. grow up or get lost.
If only
If the parents would say this to the children. There would be no steptalk.org. If my DH had said this to his two grown kids we would have saved 17 years of grief. But sadly it very rarely happens. Step parent takes all the abuse and anger from "kids" That BParent won't stand up to because the kids won't have contact with the parent if they dare stand up to them. Oh we can only dream!
I think the SK have cut ties with you,
Your DH has to handle his kids. He not doing that. He playing there games. Not introduced you. Making you an outsider,
You are right I would not attend anything the kids are at. I would go and arrange for a spa day for myself. As DH attends funeral. Or go to a fancy hotel and used some of there fancy services as he attends.
Before I comment on your
Before I comment on your situation I just have to rant. I literally can't stand people not being the bigger person and just refuse to get on with it. I hate toxic BM but I'm not teaching my DD to be rude by shying her away from BM if she is there at a family function. Unfortunately she is the mother to DD2 siblings, and it is what it is. If there was a family event I would explain to DD who BM was, and if we have to be civil for the sake of everyone, teach her to say hello and leave it at that. Massive IF that day ever happens. Probably won't be until the skids 21st birthdays or weddings.
It's so immature of these adult children to hide their children away from you because they don't want them to meet you. You are their dads wife, partner, whatever and they need to respect that. What is that teaching your BF grandkids? That it's ok to be a rude POS. Ugh these people annoy me so much. I'm sorry BM is a train wreck and has serious mental issues. Sounds like she's done a fantastic job of enmeshment. Your best option is to definitely disengage, and it's about time your BF calls them out on their disgusting behaviour every time and not let them get away with it. I guess damage is done it's just disappointing.
BF
You have been with your BF for 11 years. If this were me, I would remain boyfriend and girlfriend until he can prove to you that he loves you enough to have your back, will not allow disrespectful behavior toward you, and demonstrate to his kids that you are his top priority. Period.
They are acting like this as
They are acting like this as adults, whose parents got divorced when they were adults. All this is to say that they are mentally children. If they can't see that relationships end and their mother is being unreasonable in not accepting the end of her relationship, then they will always behave in such a childish way toward you and your BF.
I suspect their childhoods were a bit chaotic with a histrionic mother and passive father and they likely didn't develop good emotional regulation and coping mechanisms. They seem to be taking their frustrations out on their father...perhaps because their mother is so emotionally needy and volatile?
Are you close with your BF's family? What do they think of the whole thing. My advice would be to find some allies in his family, not to conspire against his children or even commiserate with over their behavior (in fact, I would recommend not talking about their behavior with his relatives), but rather to serve as people you could socialize with at these family functions to avoid the drama. Let his kids spiral on their own without being part of the drama. They will never come around to you, no matter what you do, because they feel the need to "punish" their father, which is really only hurting themselves.
Thanks for responses
Sorry, I abandoned my post, right after I posted this my mom fell and broke several bones, and I found out that my ex-husband and still friend had agressive metastaic cancer, and I was involved in bringing my daughter to see him as he was dying. He died 9/6. I am heartbroken for my daughter and myself.
I appreciate all of your responses to my post. Nope, had nothing to do with breaking up the marriage...and yes, my BF has set many limits with them and refused to engage, other than going along with the request his daughter made not to introduce me to her or her kids at the funeral. Every single one of his extended family, brothers, SILs, niece and nephews are supportive of me and pissed off at his kids for treating me this way...
I am sorry for your loss
And hope our mother heals quickly.
Ugh your situation sounds horrible. Glad that your BF and his family have your back however. This Skid needs to be not allowed to continue this behavior. Long term it will damage the grands and your bf relationship.
Losing someone you care about
Losing someone you care about is extremely painful and helping someone else cope with their loss doesn't make it any easier. I am so sorry for your loss. You have had things rough recently, please be kind to yourself (((HUGS)))
PErsonally, if I were your bf, I'd listen to them asking not to introduce you and then do exactly as I damn well please. He's under no obligation to comply with such unreasonable demands. In any case, sooner or later the rest of the family is going to come down on his brats like a ton of bricks ... and I sincerely home it's sooner.
You know what FlowerMom18 - I
You know what FlowerMom18 - I actually think they are doing you a good service. You are in a situation where they have clearly rejected youand there is nothing you can do about it. Everyone sees it and thinks its horrible. This is excellent. What's much worse is when the situation is "gray" the SKIDs are expectant and extremely nasty towards a SP- everyone doesn't see what the SP is experiencing and the SP gets depressed about having to tote the line and be a personal slave. Here, you've been given a blessing - you literally don't need to get invovled in that mess, they've created boundaries that you are respecting and you can simply not care about them whatsoever. This seems like a really great situation - from my perspective. Hope your mom heals quickly and focus on those who you love and love you. I'd say you won the stepparent lottery when it comes to SKIDs bad decisions ! Go enjoy your wonderful life - eat well, laugh out loud and dance your a** off at the next family engagemetn with all those that like you. :D
I am sorry to hear about your Mom's fall and my condolences to
you and your family on your loss.