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Valravyn's picture

When I got together with my partner, his daughter was 14 and he had full custody of her.  She demanded that I not look at her, speak to her, or 'bother' her in any way, and I was not allowed to go on the side of the house that she occupied (which got absolutely filthy, but not my problem), and my partner agreed to most of her demands, no matter how much it actually damaged the family dynamic and hurt me.  I was hurt and baffled by the rejection and disrespect for the first couple years and kept wondering why I was not given a chance at all, but it made disengaging sort of the natural state of things for me, which I'm now oddly grateful for.  I spent five difficult years in their messed up dynamic before I demanded that she move out or I was not coming back to our home together (and I have always kept my own home as a backup plan and believe that I always will).  In the time that we were forced together, she called me every name in the book (in passing while being unable to ever make eye contact with me), she regularly threatened to kill me and threw the craziest tantrums I have ever seen, she went through my things and stole from me in our bedroom, her and her friends made fake accounts to harass me online and pretended to be women who were sleeping with my partner (among other incredibly sick things), she attempted to poison me, she kept walking around in completely see through lingerie and laying out in our yard naked (even after her father repeatedly begged her to stop), she started doing drugs in our home, and her dad didn't do much at all except spoil her and tell me to "be the adult/act my age" (his daughter is 13 years younger than me) and "be the bigger person."  He also put up security cameras in our bedroom to try to make her stop robbing me and going through all of my stuff.  Those cameras caught her talking crap about him and doing drugs in our house and having boys over when we went on vacation, which was a huge eye opener for him (didn't believe it when I simply told him, lol), but I digress.

No one in my partner's family can stand to be around her, and she is their blood, and all of my partner's friends constantly tell me that they feel sorry for me for having to deal with her.  I thankfully have had a lot of support from his friends and family over the years.

The final straw for me was at the start of last year when she went into our bedroom while her father and I were out on a date and dug through the purses in my closet to find a journal that I had hidden in one of them.  She then used the information in that journal (that I was sex trafficked as a child) to taunt me publicly on all of my social media accounts.  She actually tried to slut shame me over.. being raped as a child and teen, and wrote that I must have loved it because it's the only time anyone really wanted me.  It hurt me very deeply in ways that I still cannot quite put into words.  Then, using the same fake accounts, she sent me messages pretending to be other women who were having sex with my partner.  I was away for work when my social media blew up.  At the same time, I realized that she had talked my partner into letting her move her "best friend" into our house.  Her best friend is an 18-year-old girl who is on drugs and dropped out of school, and we have had trouble with her in the past (trying to inappropriately touch my partner, egging on his daughter to 'beat me up,' and doing drugs in and throwing parties in our home while we were both away).  My partner actually tried to lie to me about it and say the daughter's friend just stayed over for dinner or spent the night here and there, which was already bad enough to me, but his daughter and the friend were posting on social media about how they finally were officially roommates and loved living in our house.  So these girls were outright taunting me on social media and, meanwhile, my partner was making them dinner and doing their dishes and letting them live in our house like the three of them were a big, happy family.  I was furious and devastated.  Once it became clear that I would be back from work and this girl was still living there and refusing to leave, he actually wanted me to be okay with living not only with his horrible daughter, but also her just-as-bad friend, and I had never felt so disrespected and cast aside by him before in my life.  I told him that I was disgusted with him and I could not believe how ignorant he was and that now there were two hateful teenage girls calling the shots in our home above me and I was done with it.  I do not like ultimatums, but I told him that he either moved the other girl AND his daughter (then 19) out of our home, or I was never coming back to it and I was done with him. 

We fought bitterly about it for 4 miserable months, but I stuck to it and refused to see him, and he moved them both out.  Now he has to "help them" with rent and groceries and he still pays his daughter's phone, internet, cable, car insurance and random things, and he is paying for her to attend college courses that she keeps failing over and over, but she is not in my face and we do not have combined finances, so I do not care.  His daughter gets so mad when I am there (I am away for work about 1/3 of the year and living with her father the other 2/3 of the year) because he spends his money doing things with me and not buying her extra stuff, but she is a 20-year-old adult now and I do not care.  She always has money to buy drugs and alcohol and always has new tattoos and piercings and fake nails, but cannot buy her own groceries, and it's not my problem.  If my partner wants to enable her to be a drug addicted loser, I do not care.  All of her failures do not surprise me in the least.  She grew up being taught that it was okay to abuse people, lie, and be lazy, and daddy will still get the tab for her.  I didn't start out so cold towards her, but I am certainly cold towards her now.  I view her in the same light as I view any other abuser.

When I am home for my 2/3 of the time, she is not allowed in our house at all and my partner agreed to only take her out to a short dinner once every 2-3 weeks to "check in on her" when I am in town.  She has been separating me and my partner for years by refusing to give me a chance and making him leave me alone to be with her or run errands for her.  So now I do not feel bad at all for pushing her to the backburner to work on our adult relationship, especially now that she is 20-years-old.  I don't care what is going on with her, I don't respond when he brings her up, and I don't care what he does with her when I am away for work.  I've told him that if he has to have her over to the house for dinner or whatever when I am gone, to just make sure that he watches her at all times and that she is not allowed in our bedroom.  She has tried to rile me up by posting pictures of her and her friend outside of our house and pictures of her in our kitchen and another photo where she put flipping me off emojis over photos of me and my partner in our livingroom.  I see that she is jealous, pathetic and deranged.  Her posting those pictures also showed me that my partner is not letting her in our actual bedroom, though (she often tried to go in there by saying she wanted to use our ensuite bathroom), because she would have certainly used those pics if she had them.  She is an idiot.

When she first moved out, she tried to make up excuses to come over all of the time for the first month to mess with me and told my partner that she was "heartbroken" about not being allowed back in our home.  He made her stay out in the driveway every time and told her that she had no reason to come into our home anymore while I was there, since she claims to hate me so much and has never said a kind word to me.  He tried to guilt me a little bit and said, "Oh, my daughter isn't allowed in my own home now?" but I was unmoved.  I told him to tell her that she is welcome in our home when she can look me in the eyes, say my name, and apologize for trying to poison me, for mocking me for being sex trafficked, for pretending to be another woman sleeping with her own father, and everything else.  He dropped it after that, though she apparently still complains constantly that she isn't allowed in.  He is paying for her to have 'her own place' to do drugs in and throw parties in, so she can stay over there, in my opinion.  She doesn't need to come back over to our home to show everyone how much she hates me.  We've all seen it enough, thanks.  They both still manage to do and say ignorant things to me every once in a while, and I overhear things sometimes, but it's like I have an entirely new and better life now that she isn't living with us, and my partner is a million times better now that she isn't living with us and she isn't in his face every day.  

The past year has been the happiest of our relationship because his daughter isn't around me and isn't there to constantly attempt to ruin every moment in our lives.  I feel better about my partner because he finally put me first and takes it seriously when I say NO to things with her.  Looking back, I'm not sure how I survived 5 years of living in him and his daughter's disturbing dynamic, but I feel like my life this past year is finally what I had hoped it might be.  When he brings up potentially "fixing" things between me and his daughter, I just firmly remind him that his daughter that he created with another woman is not my problem, we are all adults now, and he is free to see his children on his own, without me, and that putting me in an abusive situation with people who hate me and treat me badly is a NO.  I have no desire to interact with her ever again. 

My partner also has an older son, but we rarely ever see him, thankfully.  He calls up every few months to scam money off of my partner and is a drug addict who cannot hold down a job, and he lives with his mom, far enough away that visiting doesn't often happen.  Apparently the son also hates me, but I have only seen him for a few minutes out of the past 6+ years and barely spoke to him, though I have always been polite.  I'm happy with never seeing him again either.

I still live a bit in fear of either of his kids moving back in with us, which is why I will never sell my other home.  And I doubt that we will ever get legally married at this point because I do not want to be financially tied to each other.  Right now I am fine with him spending thousands of dollars a month to spoil his disgusting grown daughter and pay all of her and her friend's bills, but I would not be fine with it if we were actually married or I felt that I personally was having to contribute to that user in any way.  He had to cosign for their apartment and pay the deposit and cosigned to get her a credit card that she immediately maxed out and hasn't paid on for over a year now.  I'm very financially minded and that is the sort of thing that I would not be able to tolerate if it involved my money.

I guess that my biggest challenge of the moment is how much I hate that his daughter still comes over to our house when I am away for work and how uncomfortable I am to leave things there (I take photos of everything that I own before I have to leave, every time, and most of my valuables stay in my own, separate home).  I also keep waiting for the next blowup with one of the kids.  The apartment my partner got her and her friend is also uncomfortably close to our actual home together - only a couple streets away and I could literally walk to it in under 10 minutes.  So she's still too close.  Still, it is a vast improvement over actually living with the nightmare, and I love my partner for not letting her into our house around me.  Other than all of that, I'm still honestly just processing all of the horrible things that she has done to me and that my partner allowed to happen.  I'm not really 'over' what she has done and said to me over the years, and I don't really want to forgive or forget.  

I do love that she is now having to realize that yes, I am valid in her father's life and I do have a say in how things go, and that I can even say no to her.  I am finally starting to feel secure and heard by my partner.

Anyhow, that is me and the general idea of my story thus far and why I am here.

Comments

ndc's picture

I am stunned that you put up with that ridiculous and abhorent behavior from your partner's daughter, and even more stunned that you put up with HIM not putting a stop to it.  I wish you luck.

Valravyn's picture

Thank you :).  Looking back, I am stunned at the things that I put up with from both of them, and I couldn't go back to things being like that again.  If she ever moved back in with my partner again, I would just leave.  When I go back over my writing from those years, I was incredibly depressed and lost, and it makes me sad for myself in a weird way.

CLove's picture

Your SO - he sounds very unlikeable to me from reading your post. But of course its difficult to get things across on one post, anonymously.

Firstly - welcome to the site!!!! Reading and posting is very theraputic. Although I am currently also seeking therapy. I too, have PTSD from the eldest SD21 Feral Forger and Toxic Troll BM, and how they have treated me and DH over the course of the 6 years Ive been in this and the 20 plus years DH has been in this.

You have been through horrendous things as a child and the past 5 years more constant abuse. And she hasnt changed and hasnt suffered any true repercussions. And she is still allowed in the house when you are not there. Nanny cams would help and then discussing with SO the concept of not letting her in the house AT ALL. How dare she come inside and continue taking photos of you and your sanctuary? Thank goodness you are keeping your own house and keeping your finances separate and not marrying this dude.

You are very intelligent, and have made a good life for yourself financially. I think that you would also benefit from some in-person therapy from a therapist. this might help you in dealing with this relationship and why you would stay through it all.

You stay with SO, and yet, is this what you want for the rest of your life? You have attained a tenuous balance (for now), but who's to say it will last? And what if something happens to your job, and you cannot maintain your seperateness? There are countless things that would upset your current applecart...

So - consider your future with this person. He will always be a lousy parent to effed up horrible children.

Valravyn's picture

 Thank you for the welcome and for taking the time to read and respond to me :).  And yes, I imagine that my partner does not sound at all appealing in this post, trying to summarize everything that has happened with his daughter in regards to myself (not even really touching on the things that she has done to him or the rest of his family or our friends, which are horror stories in their own).  I know that I'm venting and not putting together a post of all of the nice things that my partner does and all the times that he has tried very hard.  He does have many redeeming qualities, though, and he has been trying very hard, particularly this past year with me, to understand what is really happening and to take steps to communicate with me better and try to alleviate my stress.  Moving his daughter out, telling her no to coming back into the house around me, and agreeing to go to therapy with me to learn how to deal with my PTSD and dissociative episodes has really meant a lot to me and those are huge steps, in my opinion.  Our communication is better and our relationship is stronger.  I feel like we are really able to focus on us as a priority with his daughter moved out.

I'm not worried about becoming financially dependent upon my partner because I am financially more well off than he is and I have no debt (even my home is paid off) and a good amount in savings and personal assets.  I try to understand that even as his daughter is an evil, horrible person, she is still his and he still wishes for her to have a good life.  I understand that he is trying to get her through college in the hopes that a functional adult emerges somewhere in there.  I also understand that his daughter is very disturbed and immature for her age and has magical thinking and delusions of grandeur, she lies constantly, and she enjoys seeing other people in pain and uncomfortable.  He has tried to explain to her that other people have feelings and she really cannot understand the concept and does not care.  She can only understand and care for how things make her feel.  She does not even like her father and can only tolerate him for short periods of time before her mask starts slipping and things get really off.  I know that he has often felt trapped and completely overwhelmed by her and how she is (which is no excuse for how she was allowed to treat me or anyone else, not at all, but I see the struggles from his side too, and I ran out of advice for him long ago).  I don't know if he could have turned her around over the years and made her into a better person, but I will always hold a little resentment that I feel he didn't adequately try and that it was easier to give in to her demands than to stand up for himself, me or anyone else against her.  It's all just complicated and I know that the things that she does and thinks are not normal in the slightest.  I begged him to put her in therapy at one point and she did one session and hated it and refused to go back.  Anyhow.  I am rambling.

Over the past year as his daughter has realized that she cannot physically get close to me and I ignored her antics posting photos inside our house, she has faded off more and more.  Even when I am not there, she rarely comes to the house anymore because she doesn't actually want to be around her father.  She calls him when she wants him to buy her something or she needs him to repair her car or computer and that is about it.  And, with those things, he can just drop by her apartment for a few minutes and she isn't at our home.

I do not want to tell my partner that he cannot see her or that she cannot come and sit in our kitchen & livingroom when I'm not even there, because I understand that, no matter what, that is still his daughter.  I have told him that I prefer they not be in the house and that he must watch her at all times if she is, and don't let her touch anything of mine or in our kitchen, which is an insane thing to have to request, but I do think that he has been doing that.  I just want her to have no access to me and that is what I am trying to establish and what I feel has been respectfully established by my partner as well over the past year.  And when his daughter realized that she can come over to the house after I leave, but that things are incredibly boring and she isn't allowed in our bedroom and I didn't react to her photos, I see that she has lost interest in being there.  My partner has also seen that.  I believe that the only reason she goes out to dinner with him while I am there is because she feels that it is hurting me and stealing time from me.  I am just glad to not see her and that I get most of my time with him with no interruptions and none of her drama now.

I actually deeply love my partner and feel very protective over him.  I'm disturbed by his kids and how he interacts with them, mostly throwing money at them and ignoring that they have serious issues, which I don't view as healthy or positive at all, but I still love him and enjoy being with him, and I very much have enjoyed being with him over the past year and a bit as we work on our relationship and he keeps his daughter away from me.  I'm just in the work of processing everything that she did to me in the previous years and trying to stay firm and clear about my expectations moving forward and the boundaries that I need to stay in our relationship.

I'm very sorry to read that you have PTSD as well and that your older SD and BM are so toxic.  I am going to read through your blogs as well <3.

Survivingstephell's picture

This reminds me of another story from here. She called her SD Fungus.  She also kept her home and dated her SO.  
 

Have you had therapy to come to terms with it all? It's just disgusting what SD has done to you and wonder why or if the cops were ever called on SD ?   Why was so much swept under the rug by you?  If this was a stranger doing these things you probably  wouldn't hesitate.   
 

A lot of us around here will tell you to drop this guy and love yourself more.  We don't take to kindly to an abusive partner who allow their crotch droppings to abuse also.   

Valravyn's picture

I am in therapy and have been for a good portion of my life, off and on.  In the past year, my partner and I have had a few sessions together too, which have helped us a lot.  It takes me a long time to process things and it got worse over the 5 years of dealing with his daughter (it took me almost a full year to tell anyone about what she posted on my social media about me being sexually abused as a child).  I hold a lot of things in and when I feel like I cannot deal with them, I dissociate.  From everything that happened to me before I even met my partner, I already have PTSD and DID.  A lot of times when his daughter was being abusive towards me, it was triggering and I checked out entirely.  My SO could tell that something was wrong with me, but couldn't understand exactly what it was to deal with it, not that I'm sure he could have dealt with it.  The few times I did tell him exactly what was happening when it was happening, SD went crazy and acted worse and lied and I felt even more stressed, and nothing happened to improve anything.   So I clammed up a lot of the time.  I didn't trust him to do anything and now I'm not even sure that you could do anything with her because she is just mentally not all there and not right.  He tried to write things off as her just being a little petty about not having her mom around and having me around instead.  When I would try to say that his daughter is actually abusive and a bully, he took offense to those words and tried to downplay her issues as just normal child-of-divorce things and "no one ever likes their stepmom."  I think there was a bad combination of me dissociating and letting things go and him desperately trying to convince me and himself that she isn't a horrible person.  I know that no parent can want to believe that their child is just a cruel, ignorant person who likes hurting other people.

I have felt better about my partner this past year because he did move her out of the house and he stuck with not letting her in the house when I am here, even though she threw a bunch of fits and heavily tried to guilt him into giving her access to me.  I know it's not easy for him to ever tell her no and that a parent telling their child to stay out of their home is a big thing.  There is something very wrong with her brain, like her thinking is not up to her age level, and she is obviously a very cruel, twisted person.  I know he feels responsible for her and doesn't want her to be a monster.  It just doesn't change the reality of her.

I don't think that there is any fixing someone who could do the things that she has done, but I understand that my SO feels responsible for her because he did create her and she is his.  I just do not want her around me and as long as that is honored, I feel that we are working on our relationship and I am able to be happy.  He is good to me and supportive and has really been trying to not get defensive, to let me speak, to learn what I need in therapy to get me to communicate when I am shutting down, and he has taken steps to make me feel secure in our home.  I did compromise that his daughter is allowed in the house when I'm not here, provided that he keep an eye on her and she isn't allowed in our bedroom ever.  She comes over less and less as time goes on because she doesn't actually care for him.  The time she does spend with him is moreso aimed at trying to get a rise out of me (which is difficult for her to do when I remind myself that she isn't actually allowed near me anymore), or when she is desperate for money or needs him to fix her car or computer or something of that sort.

SteppedOff's picture

That is all.

Stepdrama2020's picture

You will NEVER have peace with this man. Like fricking EVER.

He is not a game to win...he is a pathetic father and worse a pathetic BF. I am not being mean here, I am being brutally honest. You will always come second to the dysfunctional vicious evil B of a dd, that your BF helped to create.

Surely you can find another man with a mini wife who isnt as evil. Heck I would take a mini wife like mine was (and she was shit awful) over having this girl in your life. She will never go away, disengagement doesnt negate that the Bitch tried to poison you, ridiculed and shamed you for being raped etc etc etc . Daddy warbucks aint all that , or not even close, either.

Dang it girl learn to love yourself, get therapy, where you can learn that you deserve a better life.

 

PetSpoiler's picture

Ugh, why stay with this dude?  If my SS had ever even thought of disrespecting me like that, he'd lose the thought really quick. Going through my things, being in my bedroom and stealing from me?  Aw, heck no!  He would have been out the first time, or I would be.  No way would he or anyone else be allowed under my roof again with that behavior.  And if my husband didn't like it he could go too.  My husband never would've tolerated it. My SS would have brought my wrath upon him and DH and most likely BM would've been backing me up. I'm also a stepdaughter and had I disrespected my stepmom like that, I probably wouldn't be here to tell the tale. I don't know if she would have done anything herself but I'd have the wrath of both of my parents on me and no one to blame but myself.  
 

That's the difference though. My SS knew early on that I was not to be messed with because I set boundaries early on, with backup from DH. I knew early on to respect my elders, so when my dad and stepmom got together, I naturally treated her with respect.   Your husband and his ex failed to teach their kids respect and look how that turned out.   
If I was in your shoes, I'd be sure to not only keep my own home, but move back into it permanently. This guy is not worth it, I'm sorry.  He is not going to set boundaries with SD.  She shouldn't be allowed to set foot on that property after the way she treated you whether you are there or not.  It's still your space that she's invading.  The fact that he is still allowing her over there while you're gone shows that he really doesn't respect you. He is still putting her above you and that is unacceptable. Cut him loose. Find you a man who will see your worth and put you first. 

Kaylee's picture

NO. 

The horrendous things she did to you, and he never pulled her up for it?? 

He is, IMO, not a nice guy, and does not deserve you.

That's all.

Survivingstephell's picture

On the Adult Stepkid forum is a long saga about Twit.  You should find it and read about how an mentally unsound SD messed with her Stepmom.   Think it was Ghostwhocooks??   Someone jump in here and correct me if I'm wrong.    There's a lot to be learned over there. 

Wicked stepmo.'s picture

I give you a lot of credit for staying through all of that, you are a saint!

I cannot fathom how these parents can blindly excuse such blantently horrific behavior. It's not like her issues were minor and subtle. 

Wicked stepmo.'s picture

I give you a lot of credit for staying through all of that, you are a saint!

I cannot fathom how these parents can blindly excuse such blantently horrific behavior. It's not like her issues were minor and subtle. 

DPW's picture

Your first mistake was giving her all the power to call the shots. You all fed into her and created this mess by being permissive to her ridiculous requests. 

Your second mistake was staying with this guy. 

Your third mistake... to be... will be having wasted your life on this dysfunctional lot. RUN for your life! This is not what you want to be happy.