Nightmare Quarantine
A fight broke out between me and my SO. I spoke to his daughter in a tone out of frustration when she came to me for help while i was putting the baby to sleep. I frustratedly told her to go to her father since i am in the middle of putting the baby to sleep. He started saying disrespectful things to me because of that. I got so upset i couldnt get a word in i ended up hitting him. The 2 kids got afraid while i was trying to kick him out for 1. Disrespecting me by cursing me out 2. Hitting me back with much force. In the midst of pushing him out to leave his own daughter (11) smacks me right across my face and i turned around to hit her back and he punched me in the face multiple times. I kicked the both of them out and they went to his friends house for a couple nights come to find out that same friend didnt have good intentions because he has tried to hit on me. I asked him to come back home with his daughter. I have a black and blue eye. I'm not speaking to neither of them. & i feel like his daughter should apologize. I dont know what to do at the moment. I am just stuck in a home with tons of negative energy. Quarantine is causing me to be scared to even pick up and leave. & we have a brand new baby.
I know this all sounds so terrible. I'm venting and some positive feedback would be appreciated.
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This is not a healthy
This is not a healthy relationship for anyone.
Honestly, you all need therapy (I'm not a huge therapy person, but y'all need it).
While you are all seeking help, you should not live together.
This isnt healthy for anyone
This isnt healthy for anyone involved. You two need to separate. Normal relationships do not involve physical violence from anyone or verbal abuse. Get counseling if you want to stay together, but you two need time apart for a while.
I agree. I became a sahm for
I agree. I became a sahm for 3 years and my income has depleted. We are not married so i have no rights to anything. We are located in NYC and it will be difficult to find a family therapist during this time. Hence, im stuck and dont know what to do.
Please let this be a lesson
Please let this be a lesson learned...never give up your ability to financially care for yourself again. Never.
I have been a sahm for 5.5 years and any arguments
With my husband never have we gotten physical and hit one another or swore abuse at one another.
we vent and state facts of what happened and how we are feeling and when its skid issues or me feeling a lack of support from him, we vent and communicate to one another our feelings. Only once did my husband slam the door hard and it was because i hated being disrespected and treated as leftovers or a third wheel and that was 1.5 yrs ago.
anytime things start to get aggro- you walk away to calm down... you don’t hit back and certainly not with a young kid present.
and just so you know, i have been overseas away from my husband for 2 months now and it will be like this for a few more months till coronavirus restrictions are lifted and my husband can fly here to spend time with us as he works essential services.
I have been living life as like a single mum, pushed to the extremes and had a miscarriage almost 3 months ago whilst we were moving house, i have been stressed and overwhelmed to the max but that is no excuse to hit.
your bf can lodge a report and so much hell can happen from you hitting him.. you don’t seem to even be communicating well to one another
Contact the local domestic
Contact the local domestic violence agency, if they do not have an available shelter, they have access to funds to put you up in a hotel. If you have family call them to stay with them.
I agree with the other
I agree with the other posters.
What can you expect from an 11 yo that is witness you and your BF hitting each other, both of you taught her that behavior right then and there.
Also if I was 11 years old and I saw anyone hit my parent I would of hit them back, so I don't blame the girl.
Then you invite them back? None of you should be in the same space until everyone works out their angry issues in some intense counselling.
Maybe you should start with a sincere apology for your part in this whole mess, you still might not get an apology back however that is not the goal with a sincere apology.
i couldnt get a word in i
i couldnt get a word in i ended up hitting him.
Hitting me back with much force.
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Huh? You were mad because he hit you back harder than you hit him? And you were going to hit an 11 year old? Yes she hit you first but she just witnessed you attacking her father.
All of this and you asked him to come back home?????? Why? You are oil and water. This is an extremely abusive situation, And I am afraid to say that you are the abusive one.
Get out of this and get some therapy.
Don't you dare blame the
Don't you dare blame the pandemic and quarantine on this. You crossed a line by hitting your spouse, and then turning on a preteen who likely was reacting to her father being hit.
One of you need to move out, and it doesn't matter which one. Find a job tomorrow, doesn't matter what it is. But none of you are safe, and I'm not sure which is you is more dangerous.
When you swing first, you don't get to control how the other person retaliates to protect themselves or their child. Don't you dare try to blame him because he hit harder.
Let this be a lesson to others: if you're at the point where you're about to cause bodily harm, leave. Don't care where you go, but go.
I disagree with you on this.
I disagree with you on this. OP was definitely wrong to hit first, but she doesn't say how hard or where she hit him. I do think those are important facts. If she hit him in the arm or just slapped him, then his reaction was WAY over the line. He could have protected his kid without punching her multiple times in the face. There is a difference between protecting yourself and beating the he!! out of your partner.
OP, you did cross a line. You need to realize this. Then your partner further crossed it. You both need help. And you both need to get away from each other. I think one of you should leave before this happens again.
Once you initiate a fight,
Once you initiate a fight, you have no control over how much force someone hits back with. It sounds like he didn't start swinging with force until she attempted to hit his daughter. At that point, I'm assuming instinct kicked in as most parents aren't going to "go easy" on someone who tries to hit their kid.
If she gets the excuse that it was hormones, then he gets the excuse that he was protecting his kid. Neither should have hit one another, but I'm not going to be quiet about the inequality in making excuses for a woman hitting a man that we don't make for men. It leaves men open to abuse by thinking it's "okay" if their partner only slaps them or hits them "a little" or they don't hit hard enough to leave a mark. That's crap. Physical abuse is physical abuse, and you don't have to hit hard and leave bruises for it to be damaging or life-threatening. It also makes women look like hormonal, unpredictable people who cannot be trusted with their own emotions and bodies.
It doesn't matter if she slapped him or hit him in the arm. She hit him. That's the line that was crossed. Her SO came back, and I can't say I blame him since his newborn was there. I'm not saying he's innocent in this, but she's not exactly a victim who needa coddling, either.
I never said he should let
I never said he should let her get away with it. The right thing...the healthy thing would have been to remove himself and his daughter from the situation and call the police. Also, I never gave her an excuse about hormones. She was definitely wrong to hit him. But it sounds like he used excessive force. They were both wrong and they should separate before it escalates.
This is not a healthy
relationship but I have to say that you need to own up here. YOU hit your boyfriend. His daughter hit you in defense of her father (I would have done the same if anyone tried to hit either one of my parents) and then when you tried to hit her, he in turn defended his child from you. You are the abuser here.
In truth he needs to apply for a restraining order to protect himself and the kids involved. Your first instinct is to use physical force. That does not say much for the future of the infant involved.
I understand the frustration
I understand the frustration of having an unsupportive spouse. Rather than helping with his daughter when you're putting the baby to bed he starts a fight with you. You're tired, demands are coming from all directions and he's got the nerve to make things worse because you had the audacity to ask SD to go to her father for help.
You hit him, he hits you. sd hits you, you go to hit her, Dh punches you in the head several times...WOW.
As awful as the situation is and the fact that you were hurt the worst, if the cops would have been called DH could have rightfully claimed self defense and defense of his child. You hit him first so from a legal standpoint you were the aggressor and at fault. That being said it was wrong of you to hit DH, and I personally believe it was wrong of DH to hit you back. He could have taken SD out of the space and walked away. I can't imagine this is a first or out of the blue situation for the two of you. If SD hit you she's either been hit or seen her parents/stepparents hitting each other before. You're ALL abusive and imprinting this dysfunction onto your newborn.
If they have a place to stay let them stay there. Bringing them home will do no good, nothing is resolved. You're not talking to them so what do you expect to happen when they walk in the door? DH will be protective of SD and SD of DH. It's them against you. The slightest frustration and this will all start over again. God forbid you are holding your newborn when the hitting begins.
I know it's hard to just go out and get therapy right now but there are probably counselors doing virtual and phone visits. I would highly suggest reaching out for help. You need it! Your little baby needs adults who are good examples and a momma who knows how to resolve problems constructively.
Please research the Cycle of Violence to see what happened and how it repeats over and over.
https://dvbleedingheart.com/understanding-the-cycle-of-violence/
Try learning some nonviolent communication techniques:
http://imagoworks.com/couples-counseling/making-communication-work/
Not saying that you are the only one who should but once you change your approach they will have no choice but to change theirs.
Above all, be safe. If you feel that you or your child are in danger please call 911 and get out at least temporarily.
Thank you for such a
Thank you for such a substantial and an understanding feedback. I know I was wrong and i admitted my faults and apologized. It spiraled out of control and I do not want to continue life like this. It's a lot of build up as a frustrated stepparent and I thought others could understand but I felt bashed right now. I appreciate your feedback and I will look into the links you provided. I will be seeking counseling. Thanks again.
It appears you two have
It appears you two have issues that were probably there before the lockdown. I think for everybody involved it would be best to separate until you can both figure out how to interact with out devolving to hitting one another. The fact that neither of you called the police leads me to believe this isn't your first round with physical violence. Look into local programs that can help both of you, breaking this cycle will benefit the children not to grow up and accept this lifestyle as normal.
Ok, obviously you are all
Ok, obviously you are all ignoring OP JUST HAD A BABY. those of us who actually remember what it's like to have a newborn, and yes, this is a difficult time, so yes, it's valid to "blame". Hormones are all over the place, you're stuck at home with a new baby and a spouse that seems to suck too, and an SD that is annoying the shit out of you while you're caring for your newborn baby. Ummm, I at least understand OP. Y'all should give compassion and empathy a try before y'all try to insult and bash her.
Yes it's f'ed up on so many levels. First of all, op mentions she couldn't even speak thanks to DHs arguing, that is frustrating asf and I wouldn't blame her smacking him to stfu so she could talk. SDs hitting her was COMPLETELY uncalled for, why is she getting involved in an adult situation??? DH hitting OP, mother of his child? WTF??? And y'all think OP is the one who needs help?? Seriously...
OP has a black eye and was
OP has a black eye and was hit several times by her SO plus hit by SD. I doubt her SO has a mark on him. She made a bad choice but did not deserve that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
This whole situation truly saddens me. So sorry for OP.
Sorry, my DH was abused by BM
Sorry, my DH was abused by BM psychologically, financially, and physically. He has scars from her scratching him, a credit score that took years to rebuild, and was a bitter man for a very long time after their divorce due to her antics.
She made one FALSE claim about him breaking into her car and feeling "threatened" (a car he still owned and had to pay for the repairs on, BTW) literal days before their divorce hearing started, and it landed DH with temporary, supervised visits with his parents out of an "abundance of caution".
As someone who got bent over a bench in public by her neck by my XH, and subsequently had phones and other objects thrown at me, knives pointed at me while my ex laughed at my crying on the floor, and all-around being in a toxic relationship, I understand the urge to just deck someone. But you don't, and if you do, you certainly don't INVITE THEM BACK TO YOUR HOME when nothing has been resolved.
No. I don't care if it's BF or GF who starts swinging first or what the reason is. There are lines you don't cross. If this were a SF who was taking care of his newborn and his partner were the one causing issues, everyone would run him off this board for being "abusive" or tell him he deserved being hit back.
The OP shouldn't be coddled for being abusive, or treated like the victim. The victims here are the two kids who watched their parent(s) get hit. OP or her BF need to leave and they need to stay separated until they either separate fully or figure out a path forward. Living together right now is dangerous to everyone and solves absolutely nothing.
No, I'm not going to be supportive of OP for crossing a line. I can understand that she's frustrated and angry that her SO was an arse, but there are right ways and wrong ways to handle that. This was the wrong way 100%, and I'm not about blaming "hormones" for it. We've blamed "hormones" for women behaving crappily for centuries, and all it does is support abusive women doing abusive things.
I agree with you partially but i was a mum to 2 kids when my
eldest was 16.5 months old. I have been stressed and overwhelmed also but in the op situation when she is putting bubs to sleep and her partner is being a inconsiderate prick, i would have told him “firmly walk away now!!! I am putting our baby to sleep so everything else currently isn’t a priority” but in this situation op simply says her partner kept hurling verbal abuse and was verbally aggressive and she slapped him and then he hit back and she hit him back and the sd starts joining in hitting back.
Being a mum to a newborn isn’t an excuse to start slapping or beating people up... all of us mums have been in that overwhelming place but this couple lacks basic appropriate communication skills and boundaries.
Heck even when i was breastfeeding my newborn son in our bedroom when hubby decided to invite his family over for a bbq and told me everyone was here and to greet them and was literally prying our son off my boobs, i told hubby to go away that everything else was not a priority and he needed to leave the room so i could breastfeed in peace.
Hubby wasn’t happy but i was fedup that he didn’t consider how inviting people at that time would affect our routine and he never pushed it so using newborn/post delivery hormones or stress as an excuse is not ok here. Us mums have all been there but having open channels of communication to vent and hear your partner out in a non abusive way is key here. Never have i abused my husband, i am direct in what i say and don’t sugarcoat things so what i says comes out harshly but my husband is a direct person and does not take offence to that.
This couple lack basic appropriate communication skills, using her being mum of a new child isn’t an acceptable excuse for that violence and i feel for this op who can’t even vent or have her partner communicate things to her in an appropriate manner because that is not on and especially when he chose to behave that way in front of his kid, you just don’t diss the other adult parent in the home in front of kids because that isn’t modelling appropriate behaviour
Im not expert.
I know how hard it can be, frustration and exhaustion is hard work. and when that bottles it often leaves us lashing out to get a point across.
You cant be mad at the child for hitting you, they will always protect their parents. this is to be expected- maybe a sit down conversation with child and dad about how adults are allowed to argue and fight and you wont tolerate them getting involved. make it educational and teach the child that violence on their part is not allowed, regardless of the situation.
As far as hitting your SO, yes i get it, but no its not ok. you can be mad but you cant be aggressive and all of the actions that evening are a direct responce to you becoming aggressive.
Read above youve apologised and thats awesome. maybe just have some clear rules in place and boundaries around new baby. prevention is the key, have healthy boundaries about tasks and when a parent is taking the responsibility for baby, other partner keeps the child occupied.
If you know your predisposed to aggressive outbursts when frustrated, make the decision to walk away instead of retaliate.
Thank you! This is the most
Thank you! This is the most reasonable comment out of all...
Hitting is never, ever OK.
Hitting is never, ever OK. From what I understand, you were the one to hit first - there is no excuse for this nor is there any excuse for them to retaliate in kind. IMO you all need counselling.
You should not be in this
You should not be in this relationship.
This was a very minor thing to get worked up about. I still have to point out to my older children that I’m putting the younger children to bed. I doesn’t annoy me in the least, I simply say ‘I will come and see you in 20 minutes”. This is going to go on for years and years. It’s not the other kids fault. It’s just called a busy life.
Do you need to get your hormone level checked after having a baby?
Yikes! This is a powder keg
Yikes! This is a powder keg waiting to blow. You should not have hit him, but the fact that he, the physically stronger one, took that as permission to punch and hit you with force, several times, is really scary. Most men would not react that way.
You can get therapy now, it will be done by video. Call around, but do it just for yourself as a starting point.
ETA: Domestic violence in front of children is CPS reportable in NY, and the therapist will likely call, as he/she will be a mandated reporter. Especially given that SD was actually in the middle of the violence. There has been a big increase in domestic violence since the quarantine - people will be there to help you.
I think most PARENTS would
I think most PARENTS would react to beating the ever-loving snot out of anyone who swung at their kid. And if the SD felt the need to step in, I wonder if OP had hit her SO more than she admits and SD felt like she needed to protect her dad.
I disagree. Solving problems
I disagree. Solving problems with violence isn't healthy in any situation. If she were attacking the child, then yes. But otherwise, he could have removed himself and SD or called the police. He instead chose to punch his SO in the face repeatedly.
I'm not saying she's not wrong for what she did, but he's no innocent victim, and his reaction was not okay either.
ETA: If the police came, he's the one who would go to jail - he caused far more harm physically to her than she did to either him or the children.
I see your point, and I don't
I see your point, and I don't think he's innocent. But parents do crazy things when they think their child(ren) is in danger, especially when they see another adult about to punch their child. From how OP describes it, had he not hit her, she would have hit her SD, who I honestly think was reacting to watching her dad get hit.
ETA: We don't actually know that she didn't cause equal or more harm. She says she didn't, but that doesn't make it true. She may look worse off but that doesn't mean she IS worse off. That's why you can't judge domestic violence by the number of bruises someone has.
Would your DH punch you in
Would your DH punch you in the face repeatedly if you hit him and then took a swing at his son? No, because he's a decent man. He might grab your arm, or move you into another room or whatever he needed to do to protect his kids, but he wouldn't punch you repeatedly in the face. And definitely not in front of his 9-year-old child, he wouldn't do that.
These two are abusive to each other. He was in her face yelling and talking so much that she couldn't get a word in, that's abusive behavior. Frankly, one of them need to move out, this relationship is over.
I agree that they're abusive
I agree that they're abusive to each other, but I'm not going to assign more blame to him because he MIGHT be more physically imposing and he MIGHT have caused more physical damage. I'm being far more vocal about OP's role in this because there seems to be some want to excuse her behavior for a variety of reasons that shouldn't be excusable.
And yes, I think the possibility exists that my DH would punch me if I tried to hit one of his kids, especially if I just demonstrated that I would physically attack someone. But I also think he'd react that way to anyone, not just me, and I don't think it'd be his first reaction because he doesn't want to hit me. But I'm not stupid enough to think that the possibility doesn't exist that my DH's flight or fight response in regards to his kids wouldn't be fight.
I don't know about you, but
I don't know about you, but in my culture, in my home, I was taught that men Should NEVER hit a woman. No matter what she does or doesn't do.
Of course, this does NOT give us as women a golden pass to go ahead and go crazy. But it is common sense any man should have, a women should never be mistreated, it is a gentleman thing to do.
Her DHs kid was not in danger, and the correct thing to do would have been to remove himself and his kid from the situation, NOT punch her several times. The fact that you find this reaction "normal" and possible in your own home is worrisome.
No need to worry because I
No need to worry because I don't plan on ever punching my DH and then immediately taking a swing at one of his kids in front of my own child.
If the "gentleman" thing to do is to leave and not hit, then it's also the "lady" thing to do. They're both wrong, and both need intervention from CPS to protect the kids from the violence.
Well, he would be very wrong
Well, he would be very wrong for that, and it would be no defense for beating you.
You and I disagree then.
You and I disagree then. There are consequences to actions, and swinging at a kid after already having hit their parent is probably going to result in you getting hit. It shouldn't be someone's first choice, but if we're going to write off OP's behavior as justified because of hormones and being yelled at, then we may as well write off her BF's for being reactionary and protective.
I didn't write off her
I didn't write off her behavior. I just think his was way over the top, compared to what she did. I think they are both wrong.
But his child was NOT in
But his child was NOT in danger. She hit first. She shouldn't have even butt in in the first place, but that's another conversation.
I think he is a shitty man for feeling it is ok to beat the woman who just had his baby, regardless of whether she reacted inappropriately or not.
I'm with you. I think someone
I'm with you. I think someone swinging at your kid (and missing) is not grounds to punch them repeatedly in the face, and would not hold up in court as a defense. He's clearly a man who has no qualms about beating his girlfriend, who just had a baby, in front of his children.
Yes, what she did was wrong, but IMO - he was just as wrong, if not more because of the intensity of his reaction. Just because you are supposedly "protecting" your kids doesn't give you the right to use unnecessary force. Had she been on top of SD beating the crap out of her, then yes - it would be justified. But she wasn't.
I think she was wrong to hit him and swing at his kid, but I think this is a violent man who could seriously hurt or kill her someday.
So the woman who also hit her
So the woman who also hit her boyfriend couldn't hurt or kill him someday, too?
And does it matter that she swung and missed the kid? She still swung. Her intention was still to hit a child. Not that an 11YO should hit anyone, but it does seem like something a child would do if they thought their parent was in danger. Let's not make the 11YO more responsible for her emotional reaction than we do the adults in this situation, especially when the 11YO just watched her dad get hit and likely thinks it's her fault since it was her question that "started" the fight.
Yes, it does matter that she
Yes, it does matter that she missed. It matters very much. His child was not harmed by her in any way. On the other hand, he brutally punched her in the face repeatedly. Can you really not see the difference? I'm very confused why you are justifying that this man had the right to beat her like that.
Men can be abused by women, no doubt - but it's very rare that they kill them. It's usually more psychological. On the other hand, men kill women daily in relationships. Look up the statistics.
Why did she miss? Did she
Why did she miss? Did she miss because be hit her and knocked her out of the way? That's how I interpretted the OP, that the reason she missed SD is because Dad didn't miss her. That matters, because had Dad not intervened, SD would have been hit.
I'm not saying him continuing to punch her was right, but his reaction to punch her at all isn't out of the realm of possibility. No, he shouldn't have continued to hit her. However, she shouldn't have hit him. She shouldn't have swung at SD.
And I go back to - we have NO IDEA how much damage she did to her BF. He may not be bruised externally, but that doesn't mean he isn't hurt. And all because it isn't as likely that she'd kill him, that doesn't mean it isn't possible.
Here's what I'm actually arguing here: both of them are equally wrong and neither should get a pass. Play stupid, violent games and win stupid, violent prizes. This escalated, but if we're going to give OP more leniency because she is a woman who is the mother to a newborn, then we need to give BF a pass because he was protecting his kid.
BOTH need to be in jail. BOTH children need to be taken by CPS, and SD should be with her BM if BM is an adequate parent. Them getting back together and living under the same roof is the WORST IDEA because the likelihood that they'll be violent is extremely high. And BOTH of them will have an excuse for it - be it hormones or protecting kids.
We don't get to have it both ways on this board. Men don't get to be held to a higher standard when it comes to not resorting to violence. If she gets excuses, so does he. If you don't like that he gets excuses, then you need to be on the same page as the SM. Violence doesn't fix anything, and the person who swings first doesn't get to complain when the person who swung back hit harder.
I'm disgusted by all of this. I'm disgusted that it's likely going to be swept under the rug and that the kids will likely be exposed to this. I'm disgusted that I feel like I have to defend a man who hit his GF because so many people here want to discount what she did because of her gender and her status as a mother. He's awful, too, but he's got just as much defense for hitting her as she did him. At least he can say "I was protecting myself and my child" whereas her defense is "I didn't like getting yelled at anymore, and I was defending myself from an 11 year old who hit me while tryong to defend her father who I was hitting first".
I don't like violence, but it's ignorant to think that you can become violent and then call a truce when you realize you picked a fight with someone bigger and stronger than you. Human nature tends to show that if you hit someone, you're going to get hit back. It may not be right, but it's the reaction/consequence most of the time, especially if a situation is already being fueled by anger, furstration, etc.
BTW, this is a general statement to this thread, not directed specifically at you, tog.
Well, we agree they are both
Well, we agree they are both wrong - but I think, based on what the OP has said, that he is WAY more wrong in the amount of force he used.
I will agree that we do not have all the evidence and we don't have his side of the story.
And with that, I am done.
I spoke to his sister and he
I spoke to his sister and he does have a history on hitting his 1st wife and 2nd wife whom his 11 yr old comes from. His previous relationship w mother of 11 yearold was an abusive in a verbal and physical sense as well. The 11 year was abused by mother (including being slapped in the face just for not eating all her food) this is where i stepped in and encouraged him to fight for her years ago. He won custody and 3,4 years later.... here I am.
OP, what's your plan going
OP, what's your plan going forward?
You're in an unhealthy situation and stuck with no source of income, with a newborn. It's no wonder you're stressed. But you MUST change this, or you will surely repeat it and you will end up with more than a black eye.
Women's shelter? Counseling? Job options? What positive steps do you think you can take to help yourself out of this situation?
Yes, this - NYC is well aware
Yes, this - NYC is well aware of the increase in domestic violence during this quarantine and I'm sure there are resources available.
Even moving in with family would be warranted due to safety issues.
Hi Merry,
Hi Merry,
I apologized for my actions and pointed out my wrongs. My behavior was not ok and i truly should have more control over my emotions (clearly havent mastered that yet). I mentioned our relationship will never be the same and we will have to live seperately so he suggested we take some counseling because he would not be able to function without seeing his daughter. The energy at home is really weird and I feel like i am walking around on eggshells. His daughter gets under my skin as she does no chores and my 9 yr old has to pick up after her because I'm afraid to even say anything to her or her father. I found a virtual counselor and gave him the info, just waiting on the greenlight. I spend my days taking care of my baby and my 9 yr old in a normal state (laughing, joking, having fun, keeping up with schedules). I cook breakfast and dinner for everyone however I cant find it in myself to clean after him and his daughter.
Does that mean you guys are
Does that mean you guys are living under the same roof again?? PLEASE TELL ME THAT IS NOT THE CASE!!
I truly hope you read the
I truly hope you read the comments here and have stopped trying to reconcile with this man. He has hit you once- leaving a black eye- trust and believe he will do it again and next time you won't have to hit him first.
You were dead wrong in laying a hand on him. Yes, he was morally "more" wrong because I am sure that you did no damage in your hit but he did a number on you. None of this even matters anymore. You have to hope he doesn't press charges and you have no grounds to either. All you can do is move on.
Find a friend or family member you can stay with. Look for a job. Set up a custody plan with him that leaves little or no contact with him. Parallel parent. Move one from this relationship. Before you enter into a new one, get counseling. Many counselors are doing sessions through Zoom. Both of my son's are. It works fine and you can start working through all of this but you do need help sorting through it all.
When a relationship reaches a
When a relationship reaches a point that the couple is beating the crap out of each other, it has come to an end.
When a relationship reaches a
When a relationship reaches a point that the couple is beating the crap out of each other, it has come to an end.
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I had so many thoughts on this post since I disagreed with a lot of the responses. But it all actuality...the above sentence is all that needs to be said.
This sounds to me like the OP
This sounds to me like the OP flipped out and attacked her SO and his DD. Sounds like she was trying to violently push her SO out and the DD got involved. Then she went after his DD. THIS IS AFTER SHE HIT HIM AND HE HIT HER HARDER. She was still being physical with him. HUH? Im sorry but this does not all add up.
Im still surprised that everyone is A ok with the OP attacking him and his kid. Was he not supposed to defend himself or his kid? I guarantee if someone was attacking me, I would give them a beat down to make the attack stop. BTDT and it saved my life. Maybe this is how her SO thought. And he probably held back on her or she would be MUCH more hurt than a black eye. How long and how many hits should he have taken and not responded in kind? Should he just let her keep coming at them?
Based on some responses...I should have gone to jail because my attacker came out on the losing end of the attack...?
I read her hitting him once
I read her hitting him once and pushing him out the door. Then his daughter hit her, and she swung at the daughter. Then he punched her repeatedly in the face.
I don't read that she was attacking him - he attacked her and punched her in the face repeatedly.
This is just mind boggling,
This is just mind boggling, If this were a man there would be no forgiveness. It's not about who hit hardest. They are both mutually abusive, the kids are the victims here. All of them. She gets no pass from me, nor does he. BOTH are mutually at fault for this. NOBODY is relishing she got hit harder, nobody is defending his actions. They are both mutually at fault IMO. She swung at him, she swung at a kid, he hit back, kid hit back. Quit defending her and making him the villian. Quit defending him and making her the villian. BOTH are JUST as guilty and at fault IMO.
And YES, I say this as someone who lived a very abusive relationship w/my exh, he was an abusive narc.
This blog tells me this is their norm, there ARE such things as mutually abusive relationships btw.
It's appalling how people
It's appalling how people state that violence is no big deal if it doesn't leave a mark. There are plenty of violent actions that don't leave a mark. This household is violent regardless who leaves marks. Violent households shouldn't have young children residing there
My advice immediately end the
My advice immediately end the relationship.
Proceed to domestic abuse shelter and ask state for help.
Neither should have children living at home. SD needs to go to her grandparents. Little baby needs to go to any relatives for the time being
Eventually maybe parents could have access to visiting their children but they should not have any custody wuth any children for at least some time. This situation needs to be put under control first. Children shouldn't be witnessing these fights