HELP!! Bat sh*t crazy biomom won't let up!! (LONG)
This is my first post here so let me introduce myself and my situation quickly. I am a mom to an 11 year old son and 9 year old daughter. I have been with my DH for three years and a half years and we just got married in October. He has two boys, also 11 and 9. His boys had no rules or responsibilities when I met them so it has been a long road re-training them and getting my DH onboard to actually be a parent instead of a "disney dad." But he is a wonderful man and my kids love him like crazy. Luckily all our kids get along great as well so we have a pretty great situation most of the time. Our biggest issues come from DH's ex wife and I am so sick of her and her bullsh*t drama. She's controlling, manipulative and just a bad person in general. DH and I waited almost six months after we met to introduce our kids to each other so we could make sure it was a serious thing. And his ex has literally been a psychopath ever since the day she found out he was dating me. Mind you, she is the one who left him (and the kids at the time) and got her own apartment. They had been split up for almost 5 months when I met DH and were in the process of getting a divorce. But she has tried to convince their boys ever since then that DH cheated on her with me and that's why she moved out and THAT is why their family split up. Anyway, she has since remarried as well but is still a huge intrusion in our lives. I feel like it is ALWAYS something. They have 50/50 split custody of the kids and it is in their divorce paperwork that the kids are to call their other parent every night between 6 and 9pm... She had the nerve to text DH SIX times on our wedding night at 7:45pm ranting and cussing him out because the kids hadn't called her yet and it was "getting late"!!!!
A few months ago SS's called her from my phone two nights in a row because DH was working nights and she flipped out. She texted him and said that she didn't want them calling from my phone because she knows I have an iphone and we could be using it to record her. She's nuts. I didn't even know that was possible and why the hell would we be trying to record their conversation? To me, it was obvious she talks to them about stuff she shouldn't... She would always tell them to take DH's phone in the bedroom and shut the door when they called her and then would keep them on the phone for 20-30 minutes. So anyway, the next week after that incident she went out and bought SS11 a phone of his own so he could call DH or her on his own phone. Fine with us.... Until two weeks ago when all hell broke loose again. We were headed out to dinner on a Saturday evening and it was right at 6pm so DH told the boys to go ahead and call their mom before we head in to eat. SS11 called but she didn't answer so he left her a voicemail. We went to dinner, ran some errands and got home around 8:50 and she called his phone right as we were walking into the house. SS11 answers and all we could hear him saying was, in a panicked voice, "Mom we called I swear. I called you right at 6 but you didn't answer. I left a message. I swear we called!!" Then I guess she told him to put SS9 on the phone and instructed him to go in his room and shut the door. We could hear him bawling his eyes out a few minutes later so DH and I stood outside his bedroom door trying to listen in and see what the hell was going on on the phone. We could only hear his end of course but SS9 is crying hysterically and saying over and over "I do love you. I did want to talk to you. I swear we called. I'm so sorry I love you please don't say I don't" Finally after a good 10 minutes of this he hangs up and comes out of his room and DH calms him down and asks him what was going on. Apparently his mother accused them both of lying about calling and was telling them they must not love her and they probably didn't want to talk to her and they must not want to ever see her again. Codependant parenting much?? So DH takes the phone and starts scrolling through the texts from her... She was texting SS11 over and over that he's a liar. Then further back in the texts, DH sees that she has been texting them at least 10 times a day on the days they are with us drilling them about where they are, who they are with, when are they going to call, etc. We've noticed that both SS's have seemed nervous and on edge at our house the past few weeks and now we know why!! She won't give them a break!!
So DH told them from now on the cell phone stays at their mom's house. She doesn't need to be harassing them all week long while they are with us so they can call her once a night as usual from his phone and that's it. When she found out she went crazy. Obviously she only got him the phone so she can know exactly what goes on at our house 24/7 and try to control the kids even when they are with us. She told him if SS11 can't bring his phone to our house then he is never allowed to call DH, me, my kids, or any of DH"s family from that phone and they can't call him either. SS11 said she actually went in and blocked all of our numbers on his phone. But now this past week she is back to harassing DH instead. Every night if the time goes past 7:00 she texts him asking if the boys are going to call and why haven't they called yet. THEY HAVE FROM 6 TO 9PM!!!! Can anyone give me any advice to pass on to DH?? I hate this woman more than I have ever hated anyone in my entire life and I am so sick of her disrupting our lives. It is ALWAYS something!!!! I could tell pages and pages of stories about all the times she has called and texted DH screaming at him because she doesn't like something he did or said or where we took the kids, or whatever the case may be. It never ends!!!!
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It's not codependent
It's not codependent parenting - it's abusive parenting.
DH should block and ignore her. Have them call during the window of time and don't respond to her. He may have to give up his phone calls from her house unless he wants to take it to court.
Don't count on her getting sane any time soon. And at some point, the boys may find it easier to just refuse to come to DH's house than deal with her, unfortunately.
can DH revisit the 6-9
can DH revisit the 6-9 calling thing and have it removed from the agreement? I mean clearly it is causing a major problem...even for skids. Your DH should not respond to her.........ever.......unless it is directly related to drop/off pick up or a kid sickness or schedule...otherwise....ignore. That changed alot of things when my DH finally started ignorning BMs rants.
The exact thing happened with SD now 12....about 2 years ago. The nervous/anxiety thing....b/c BM would call and call and call......and then cry and say she is lonely and misses SD....and on and on....to the point where SD12 no longer sleeps at our house b/c BM has convinced her that she can't survive unless is home with her each night....she won't even stay with a friend anymore....I blame DH at the end of the day for not stopping it......but whatever....at this point I hope she gets totally PAS'd and I don't have to deal much with her teen years.............
It would be well worth the
It would be well worth the cost to file and modify the phone bs.
BM is not only interfering in Dad's parenting time, but harassing and stressing the kids out. A window of three hours is way to wide and every night is f-ing ridiculous. A couple nights a week with a ten minute limit between 6-7pm is sufficient. And thats ten minutes, period. Not ten minutes each kid. An allowance may be put in also so the boys can call on other nights also if it is their desire and they freely ask to call (without harassment or pressure from either parent.
Your husband also needs to be ignoring BM's numerous tirade texts and calls. He doesn't have to listen/read her crap.
In fact look into My Family Wizard. It's an email communication method approved by most family courts. If BM says no, that too can be court ordered. Your husband has plenty of reason to request non-verbal only communication between parents.
She is always going my going to be high conflict but there are a few things Dad can do to . The other thing I wanted to mention to you is therapy. You said BM has these kids so upset with all the 'you don't love, you never want to see me' blah blah (she's totally PAS-professional these kids), the children may need a professional neutral party to help sort their feelings and teach them needed coping skills.
Your DH doesn’t need to
Your DH doesn’t need to respond to her craziness. I like the idea of Our Family Wizard, and keep communication strictly about the kids. I agree with tog, this isn’t codependent it’s abusive, and I also won’t be surprised if at some point the boys find it easier to just stop coming over.
Parents like this don’t care about their kids, they care about winning this ridiculous war (usually made up) between them & their ex. It’s sick, and the people who suffer most are the kids.
I think therapy would be a good idea, but if you go down that path make sure the therapist is well versed in blended families or they won’t be helpful at all.