Yep I told them that what if they were married and their wife asked them to help with making their bed and they did that crappy of a job and she gets upset with them and takes the covers off and said redo it and they started crying like that? I told them that she would just look at them and think what did I get into?? b/c if they are going to cry over something like that then what if they brake up is that the end of the world? I also told them about the spilled milk thing. It in the end is just spilled milk that can be cleaned up and should be no big deal. Geez I hate to think they will be big cry babies when they are 40!

I hear ya. I read your blog about the pics that were thrown away and I still say he is plenty old enough to have saved them himself. Not to mention you have already set him up a keep sake box but he CHOOSE to ruin it. I say you are not to blame at all and he and your dh need to get their little 2 yr old attitudes in check.

That is what I told all my kids just a little bit ago. I will NOT be responsible for their stuff when they are plenty old enough to pick up and put it away! Or at least tell you they want to keep it.

No that will not work as I don;t believe in paying for them to do what they should do in the first place. We have too many people living here for them not to clean their own stuff up and to keep their room clean. Why would you pay kids to lean up after themselves?

I just want to clarify about the paying for chores, I was in a hurry yesterday as I had to leave. I don't pay for chores as i don't believe in paying a kid to participate in being part of the family. I see chores as being part of the family, cleaning up after yourself and pulling your own weight within the family should not be bought.

But at the same time I do pay for things out side of chores. All kids know they an come up to me and say they need or want to earn so much money for something and they have to tell me what that is. I will find something that needs to be done or they can do my chores and I'll pay for that. Like right now I have a boy that wanted 10 bucks so I told him to clean out a huge shelf in the bathroom that and to vacuum it out, I want to close up this shelf (remolding the house).

I think so differently then most people do. My kids have earned money by cleaning up the yard and our cars or buy cleaning the shed (that one cost me a lot LOL) But I believe in them learning how to earn their money instead of me just giving it to them. I also think that cleaning up after yourself should be a given and not be paid for. In the long run it teaches them that they have to clean up after themselves and not expect something in return as well as not expect others to do it for you.

HS you go ahead and do what you think is best for you and your family not everyone does things the same anyway. But you can also modify anything to make it work for your family too.

hbell0428 I think it makes a big difference when my dh is more about keeping things clean then I am. LOL He will see something and make them clean it. He hates a dirty house. So when I show him something he understands why it needs to be taken care of. I have a great dh that backs me up.

He did tell me he could see both sides of the bed thing and after he told me about looking at it from their side.(after they left) I think I might have came across too harsh. Now he said that they should have made the bed right and should have been made to redo it. But I did pull all the blankets and stuff off in front of them and told them to remake it and waled off. Sometimes I do come across too harsh, I'm a very direct person. He is right as their mom does everything for them and they only do these things here. So they don't have someone telling them that they did it wrong and walk off. So I can stop and try to be a little less harsh next time.