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AlexandraL's picture

For about three years half my mind, maybe more, has been filled by my stbx BF and stuff related to SD, BM, MIL, his divorce. I came here to this site when we first started to live together and I felt crazy, guilty, confused. It has helped me immensely but now, as I look at how being in this relationship has drained me in so many ways, I wonder if being here on this site is preventing me from freeing myself from everything that has happened.

I love my BF a lot but I am at a point where there is no way to move forward and being together stagnant is killing us both. The situation just is not what I want and I am scared vs. excited about the future, and for very real reasons. I guess love isn't enough. Maybe things could work out in the future, but BF has many things to do on his end before I can feel safe being with him and secure about a future with him. I feel like a constant disappointment because I cannot give him what I would like to and sad over the fact that I love an amazing man who has a situation I can't accept.

At any rate, I feel like the situation has taken up too much space in my life. This past year has been very difficult for me in many ways. I am trying to free myself from the weight of this relationship and I wonder if this site is almost reminding us/adding to our stress sometimes. One of my New Years' resolutions is to keep more of my feelings to myself because me complaining/sharing things with others doesn't really change my situation and it just burdens the people I love. Also, by "sharing my story" I am continually focusing unintentionally on the negative vs. maybe doing something more positive.

Just wondering what you all think. I feel like when you're confused and can't make heads or tails out of the situation reading/posting here is helpful -- so helpful -- because we're so close to the situation that we can't see things objectively. When you DO figure it out though, I wonder if being here just makes things worse. Not sure. I'm addicted to reading and like posting but I wonder if me doing so is keeping me tied down vs. living my life minus my man's set of problems...

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Francesca's picture

Well, we all talk about the difficulty of disengaging from the problems. I guess you have to decide if the relationship is worth getting through the problems. They will end, although others will take their place. If you envision a life where you and your spouse have only your own children, and you are young enough to find that, you have that choice to make. If you love your relationship and partner enough to see him through this, you can make that choice also. Most of us have chosen to stay. There will be problems in all relationships. You have to weigh your decision.
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overit2's picture

Alexandra! I think you are SO right, I've wondered about that also. I think a lot of posters would benefit from that outlook...particularly being on here YEARS using their headspace w/issues rather then working on a solution. Keeping stuck in the negative.
I think the board has a purpose, but can be detrimental as well depending on where we are.

And this happens on any board. For a long time during my previous marriage my focus was on specific board that dealt w/abuse --but after I made a change and was out and no longer needed the emotional support it provided....I found that if I stayed and contributed it started to "keep me" in my past and focusing on it. I took a long break to recover and not think about those things and focus on other areas of my life.

I still go back now that I'm stronger and healed and I can give advice or support w/out feeling drained or that it's bad for my head space.

Anyways-excellent observations!!!

AlexandraL's picture

Thanks. You nailed what I was trying to say overit2. Thank you. I think it is time for me to focus on me and recover. I want to stop thinking of my life in terms of how it is affected by my BF and his life and just see it in relation to my kids, being a mom, a professional, my own goals, dreams...you got it Wink

stormabruin's picture

I absolutely agree. I have found that when I'm really struggling with something & need advice, I turn to Steptalk. Of course, advice is only that & we choose what we will take from it. There does have to be a balance. While we can come here for advice & support from other steps, the site is LOADED with angry negative vents. It's our responsibility to keep reality in check as we read & to back off if we find the negativity flowing into our homes & creating more trouble in our marriages/relationships & families.

I have seen some who come here daily simply to complain about everything they hate about steplife, yet make no effort to improve where they can. It just end up enabling allowing them to make excuses to stay in a miserable situation. It becomes easy to see that they are not out of the ordinary in feeling put out in steplife & it just becomes accepted that steplife sucks. Time passes, they continue to rant with their cohorts & 1...2...3...years later, they are still just as miserable as they were in the beginning, but their anger is stronger because they feed it here everyday.

Anytime a specific group of people gather, the common things that pull that group together will be magnified. This goes along with our relationships/marriages as well. We experience life with our men every day. Their problems become our problems, as our problems become theirs. Like Crayon mentioned, we can't realistically just pretend they don't exist, but we really do need to accept responsibility for making sure those problems aren't the focus of our lives.

Steptalk has proven to be a helpful place for me, but there have been times I've had to back away for a short time to keep things real in my life.

AlexandraL's picture

Well, I guess if there is a rat infestation and there's nothing you can do and no one to call maybe it is time to find a way to live with the rats or leave. Really, there is nothing in between that isn't miserable. I've been trying to find a way to live with rats and can't so, I guess that means time to condemn the building and leave.

I do love my bf but it's not enough to make up for the dysfunction that will always hinder our relationship. Maybe I am wrong, but I truly believe that things could be different...maybe it can't be different with him but maybe with someone else. It's the house metaphor again...if you love the house but it is infested with rats, how can you ever be happy living there?

I don't know, I guess I have my answer. I wasn't really looking for an answer per se, just thoughts.

overit2's picture

indeed....there is always a solution, always an out...it's whether we want to do it or sit there in our muck and complain. There are plenty that like to sit in their muck for years on end w/excuses about how impossible it is to do somethign for their own lives and well-being. NOTHING is impossible. Perhaps that is where they are really comfortable and familiar and fear the change? Maybe the infestation feeds some warped need in us that is addicted to the drama and co-dependency and attention received by us exposing our hell to others over and over but refusing to get out.

There are always ways out....may not be the out and solution we wanted but hey...if we aren't stubborn enough we adapt.

Rat infestation...there not being any rodent control places is not plausible nor is banning of pesticides...and even if that were the case there are other methods. Many creative methods. One that wants a solution finds it.

AlexandraL's picture

I do believe that there is always a way out but not necessarily create a certain outcome. For instance, I don't think there is any other option for me with my BF. I cannot change the situation that makes things not work for us but I can choose to try something else. I am tired of being in limbo. I've given more to this relationship than any other, even my very long marriage.

There are only three choices -- accept things (tried that unsuccessfully), change things (did that, hasn't made a difference really), or leave.

The bottom line is if you are unhappy and your best efforts do not yield change, is it right to stay in the name of love? Idk, maybe there is something wrong with me and I am just packing it in and will regret it but my immediate happiness or lack of it means something. When something is right you don't need to think about whether it is right. Something is wrong and I don't know how to fix it. I've tried for a long time, gone to couple's counseling, individual counseling...

stormabruin's picture

Of your 3 choices:

1)accept things...as you mentioned, you've tried it. Not to mention, that means living the rest of your life unhappy. That's a long time to be unhappy, & we all deserve better than that.

2)change things...we can only control change in ourselves.

3)leave...as one who has done it, I can honestly tell you that the most difficult part of leaving was the time between telling my DH I had decided to do so & actually physically leaving. I thought moving day would be the hardest & I dreaded it, but when I woke that morning & knew that the next time I woke up it'd be the first morning of my new free life...words can't express the relief I felt. The joy I felt driving away in my beat up car I knew I'd have to soon replace with the little to nothing I had to start my life with...words can't touch.

As far as making the decision to stay or leave, only you can do that, & when you're ready & have had enough you'll know it. I can tell you this...love is NOT enough. The day I left my exH, I loved him. That was what made my choice difficult. I knew he was hurt by my decision, but I was hurting myself to stay. I just knew that our short 4 years together were ugly for me, & that I couldn't stick it out forever, so why stay any longer?

My thought was that it was unfair to me to spend my life with someone who didn't respect me, & it would've been unfair to expect him to spend his life with someone he had no respect for.

My thoughts are with you in making your choice. Maybe you won't make it today or next week, but be certain you don't let years pass just making it through. Be sure to take of you. Smile

AlexandraL's picture

I hear you stormabruin. My divorce was very similar and I still loved him when we parted ways and it was my decision. I do wonder about my marriage sometimes, whether we could have made it, but I never had second thoughts about my decision to divorce until the throes of this relationship when I realized that even though my BF and I are a much better match than my ex and me, he carries baggage with him that makes it impossible for us to have (at least right now) the kind of relationship and life we are capable of having. He's made many changes and for that I am happy, but there are things that I cannot see changing and although I do love him, I feel my resentment will only continue to erode what we share. I am hoping that someday things will either be different enough to allow us to be together in the way we deserve, to overcome my resentment, or to at least be a friend. Not sure if it is possible once either of us start dating, but I know that even though I am divorced my ex still loves me and I still love him. When you REALLY love someone, I don't think it really goes away.

Anyway, I think you're right that the hardest part is that turning point, when you actually follow through. When we broke up before I was so angry it made it totally easy but this time, I am not angry, just tired and disappointed. Realistic. Sad.

stormabruin's picture

I agree that real love doesn't go away. I have more respect for my ex now that we are living separate lives again. Of course, he's not in my life. He doesn't have the opportunity to run me down anymore. We have run into each other here & there, but since the day I left, there have been no romantic sparks & not one moment have I questioned or regretted the choice I made. I am happy now. Last I heard, he wasn't, but it's because of choices he's made. I do still wish for the best for him & want him to feel good about life, but I know that I can't make it happen. I had to do it for me & he has to do it for him.

I also agree that reaching the point of just being tired & disappointed is a very sad & lonely feeling.

I hope you are able to find peace in the decision you make. (((hugs)))

AlexandraL's picture

Thanks fabumom...I know you can relate and I think your approach to your situation shows how much grace you have. I think you're doing the right thing for sure.

Thank you for your kind words, I truly feel that this year will be a good one, even though I have no idea what is in store. It is bittersweet to learn the lesson that love is not enough but I'm old enough to see things for what they are and not what I wish they were.

I hope all is going well with you. Smile

on the fence's picture

"I love an amazing man whose situation I just cannot accept."

I so feel that. You're just still fighting that. I did for a long time, too.

On a similar blog not long ago someone pointed out that when things are good we don't tend to be here.

It's very hard to accept that you can't make the skids get a slingshot ride to another planet. We spend time in denial that we can never win. We have something we don't want to lose, but the baggage is just too much. With or without this site you are going to have the agony of that decision.

I can fully relate to the stagnation and the frustration of wanting things my way.

Problem is, there's no middle ground. You want him without the baggage and he wants you to accept it accept it and be happy.

I so sorry. I know exactly how you feel.

dragonfly5's picture

My thought was that it was unfair to me to spend my life with someone who didn't respect me, & it would've been unfair to expect him to spend his life with someone he had no respect for.

What great words of wisdom. Well said. Thank you!

AlexandraL's picture

Thank you on the fence. It means a lot just knowing someone understands where I am at. You're doing the right thing for you and I feel I am so close to following in your footsteps. Hugs to you.

overit2's picture

""I love an amazing man whose situation I just cannot accept."

This resonates also with me. I've found a "way" around it. I blogged about "withdrawing" a bit. Stepping back and keeping our relationship more neutral.

I must admit it's been a very tough week for us both. I miss him like crazy, I'm trying in my head to somewhat disengage and do other things and slow things down. My kids haven't seen him since Monday. I didn't see him from Mon till last night and only for a couple hrs-and he didn't spend the night.
This wknd his D is coming, we agreed we aren't going to be having the kids all under one roof and maybe we can find small outings to do those times. We have a bday we are all going to Sat afternoon...but otherwise we'll each be sticking w/our own kids.

I think it was a disengagement that had to happen otherwise the relationship would have been over quickly-maybe by stepping back, going back to a more casual, low key, not as much time together approach we can salvage and better enjoy the relationship. And we had to do this really because of his D and her inability to get along w/my biosons. The 3 of them combined and her escalations and behavior were adding such stress that it was about to cause the death of our relationship alltogether.

Another part of me wonders if the distance we are creating will actually damage what we had. No way to know right now, wait and see.

I also often wonder if the "love is just not enough" is really true.

AlexandraL's picture

Overit2, you're right, there's no way to know if slowing things down will damage things but continuing on most likely would damage things. That's how I feel about my situation. If we continue on, it will probably not have as good an ending and I certainly don't want to part on negative terms.

iloveit's picture

I absolutely do understand what you are saying! I can relate on so many different levels. Lately my bf has been more stressed out than I feel he has been through his whole divorce and certianly the last 1.5 year of our life together. He doesn't listen to me when I tell him he needs to take it easy or his health will suffer....so we were in the ER last week as he was having heart fluttering and the doc said look you gotta get this anxiety in check or else you will be back here with a heart attack. His divorce will be final in May but it bothers me that he can't see the good things in his life and NOT put our life on hold until things are finally settled. He has a business trip next week and will be gone 4 days. I usually dread when he goes but this time...I'm looking forward to it. I need a break from HIS stress. I hate that his stress gets me worked up and I am feeling quite resentful these days. It's like, yeah yeah I love you but listen to how shitty my life is these days. I'm getting sick of that attitude something needs to change.

AlexandraL's picture

Thanks LuckyDuck. I agree with you. This site has been invaluable to me. There was no one I knew that was in a blended family when I was in the worst of it and was literally Googling things trying to find a way to make things better and found this board. I do like this sight a lot and there have been many people on here who have helped me see things more clearly -- most of them got kicked off but several women really opened up my eyes and for that, I'm indebted. I'd love to be able to help someone else. I think I just might need a short break.