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Physics guy's picture

Does anyone else here have a situation like this?  SS19 seems to have zero interest in dating or relationships.  I may be old, but when I was 19 all I could think about was girls.  I wouldn't care if SS was straight or gay... it just seems odd that he would rather be phone surfing than developing relationships (physical/emotional).

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ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

:I honestly didn't date at 19. I wouldn't fret too much. I went out with friends in high school. NEVER went on second dates. I had no interest in a relationship. At 19 I didn't want one either. I would OCCASIONALLY be with friends. But I focuse dmy time and effort elsewhere. I wasn't ready for relationships until AFTER I had met DH. We talked for literally 8 months before I agreed to date him.

Don't fret over it too much!!!

dysfunctionally_blended's picture

Does your SS live to divide the adults in his life? Meaning does he go back and forth between bio parents playing both sides and at the same time slyly trying to come between your relationship?

I have found that skids put so much energy into destroying their own life and what surrounds it rather than building it for themselves. There isn't time left for anything else. They sit in their rooms and stew and rue on what they can do next. Who can they play. Who can they sneer at or push the limit too. Then they pout when it doesn't work and the cycle continues. 

I don't think it has anything to do with sexuality but rather their need for control. 

beebeel's picture

Yes!! My SS18 hasn't had a GF since middle school (if you can even count that). He has gained a lot of weight the last two years, showers about once a month and has only set foot in my laundry room once since he moved in 7 months ago. He also changed jobs (after a two week "break" immediately following his first full 40-hour work week ever) to one where he sits on ass all day long doing assembly line quality control. It pays $2 less an hour than his old job, " but they have air conditioning and I can sit down all day!" Geez, I can't imagine why he's struggling with the ladies...

Chmmy's picture

SD16 told DH lastnight that no boy at her school is worth her time. She's pretty arrogant for an average looking chunky girl. How bout they wont look at you cuz you stuff you size 12 body in size 10 clothes.

lieutenant_dad's picture

I guess I don't see what the problem is? Better for someone NOT to date when they aren't responsible enough to care for themselves, much less someone else. The likelihood that someone who is irresponsible for themselves is going to find someone responsible and well-adjusted is pretty small. I'd count is a blessing that a teen isn't dating. That's one less thing to worry about.

That being said, I also think the younger generations don't want what their parents had. 50% chance of divorce where you lose half (or more) of everything? Two loads of student loan debt? Possibility of having a GUBM/GTBF who will take your kids away? No real financial benefit to being in a relationship versus just having roommates?

Yeah, the younger generations aren't dumb. They watched their parents get divorced, and for men, they watched their fathers get reemed by the court system. They have either lived through the recession as a young adult, or they grew up in it. The appeal of long-term relationships and marriage just isn't there. The benefits aren't what they used to be. Easier to live in a hook-up culture until they are older and somewhat established (because unskilled labor pays zilch) before making plans to settle down.

Physics guy's picture

I don't necessarily see it as a problem.  It's just so much different than when I was that age.  Just an observation.  Besides, I wouldn't take too well to having SS cuddling with GF on my couch! LOL!

lieutenant_dad's picture

So SS is in a bit of a no-win with you? You find him odd for not dating despite having no means to effectively do so, but wouldn't want to facilitate it if he did. He's wrong either way, in his current situation, no matter what with you, yes?

Physics guy's picture

I'm just trying to understand the dynamic between young people.  I know my dad didn't mind if I dated but he wouldn't want to see me cuddling my gf on the couch.  Actually, I really hope SS gets it all together and finds a nice relationship where he can have an SO.  Hey, I'm new to the whole step-parent thing.  Learning on the fly.  That's why I'm glad to have this forum.

Sometimes I have to sit back and understand that it's not the 80s anymore!

lieutenant_dad's picture

This is one of the best pieces of SPing advice I can give you:

Don't put your SKs or your spouse in an unwinable position. There always needs to be a way for someone to get out of a situation that meets your satisfaction, even if it is the bare minimum.

Part of that requires doing a little digging and research. It's not the 1980s anymore. Nor the 90s. Nor the 00s. Your SS doesn't remember a world before 9/11. He has grown up learning about terrorism, living in an ongoing war with no end, grew up in the midst of a recession, has nevet know life without a cell phone or internet, and knows it costs a small fortune for college. The idea of retirement is a fantasy for more young adults, and many plan to be bankrupted at least once due to medical bills or a recession. They don't want to own homes because they fear for stability in their jobs, and they don't want to get married because most marriages end in divorce just like their parents. Their "good" role models for stable relationships, stable economy, work benefits, and peace don't exist. They were born in a chaotic time that doesn't have the same promise for a better life that those returning from WW2 saw.

Most young adults have the goal to survive, and they are angry that their parents made the selfish decision to birth them in the first place then set the world on fire. They are tired of being blamed for the ills of the world when they haven't even had a chance to fix anything yet. They're more worried about how they will survive than whether they will get a spouse.

Physics guy's picture

I agree with everything you are saying, but, I think that there seems to be a lack of motivation or even a desire for human contact, other than electronically. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing him for not having/wanting a relationship.  As I said, it's merely an observation of how things have changed.  I can tell you, I'm glad that I'm on the second half of life.  I wouldn't want to face the world/country that these kids are facing.  

lieutenant_dad's picture

Human contact is different in the digital age. I can Skype with my best friend who lives 80 miles away and it's like she is sitting here with me in the room. VR now lets you create avatars that interact with one another in a digital space as if you are in a room together.

It's not a lack of human interaction; it's a difference in that interaction. Again, young adults have grown up in an age with constant access to internet and cell phones. They have grown up where time and place don't matter. You can get anything at any time from anywhere. The people who struggle with this aren't the young adults and kids; it's those of us who grew up before the digital era. People in the early 1900s would be flabbergasted that by folks with telephone access and think it absolutely absurd to have a conversation without actually seeing the person or writing the words on paper where it could be crafted to mean exactly what you want. Technology had a way of driving us all apart, and now it's finding ways to bring us all back together.

Different, not wrong.

Physics guy's picture

By the way, your first sentece is very good advice indeed!  I think that I have a tendency to be nostalgic about how things were.  Truth is, you're right, things are different.  I have some adjusting to do, too.

Thanks 

Indigo's picture

He appreciates girls apparently and watches them out of the corner of his eye. Not avoidant of social contact but he speaks of how guys can get derailed in life before they have a chance @ college & career ... Apparently there is a quiet movement of young men who support each other to do stuff & not get "trapped." There's an acronym but I dont remember it.

SGD in contrast was "dating" @ 12 -- hooking up w/men at 14. SGS-12 is a convicted sex offender ... SD was pregnant at 15.

Neither group are similar to when I was in high school, back in the dark ages.

 

 

shamds's picture

he is in uni but so far no girl friend. I mean how is he gonna get a girl when he’s just sleeping or playing computer games when not at uni

i find his behaviour repulsive, he dresses messily and untidy, fidgets and sniffles all the time. It would be a major surprise to hubby if he brought a girl home. 

I know ss would tell his dad to make me cook something for when his lady friend (if he manages to get one) comes over but i’d be hell no! You can order take out, i’m not playing nice and faking smiles.

sd is 22 and no guy friends yet, how can she when bio mum controls her like a hawk and she blindly stupidly follows bio mum and stepdads every whim. It’ll be a major surprise if they ever managed to get a partner with their current character and behaviours/personality traits.

Physics guy's picture

" he dresses messily and untidy, fidgets and sniffles all the time"  Yes!   I see the same behavior in SS.  I also see it with a number of kids in the 19-22 range.  (Funny how we've been conditioned to call 19-20 yr olds "kids" when our granfathers were fighting in WWII at ages younger than that.)

lieutenant_dad's picture

Your grandfather could also get a job out of high school with little advanced training, or received on-the-job training that paid him while he worked. Now, for a decent job, kids have to go to school or learn a trade, neither of which pay much while learning (and don't tend to keep up with inflation).

Plus, people died younger. Middle age was 30-35, not 35-40. That 5 years makes a difference.

I'm not saying we should infantilize young adults and keep them teens forever, but I really dislike the "back in my day, we were better" attitude. It's not necessarily "better". It's "different". 

Aunt Agatha's picture

Means no pregnancy scares!  I’d consider it a blessing, especially for someone with little to no drive.

One of the SDs in my life has been boy crazy since the age of 12, and did have a pregnancy scare at 15 (another story).

So when she announced to my SO that she was now bisexual (we think for a reaction, because we do not care what consenting adults do and they know it), my SO responded, “I’m all for it since you can’t get pregnant with a girl” and laughed.  

 To his chagrin, she’s only dated boys since then (and is thankfully now on birth control!) *biggrin*

Thumper's picture

Have you considered asking SS..."Hey dude, do you have a  girl we don't know about yet? LOLOLOL"

Be very happy he doesn't ...in a way it's common sense to get his life straight first. Last thing YOU want is some girl telling him "I am pregnant" like a new adult kid  I Know. NO, its not my kid THANK GOD.

I grew up during an era that by age 18 males either joined the service, had a job 'already' at the foundary they kept working at, OR some went on to college. College was not the norm but the exception. Men learned a trade that would sustain them thru their lives.  

What WAS the norm is you had a girl who was going ot be your wife out of high school. At around age 16 she was given a PRE-ENGAGEMENT ring (remember those) then it became an engagement ring. Her parents would have given her a "Hope Chest" for her 16th bday,  whereby relatives would start to help her fill it up with things to set up house.

Parents would have never EVER approved of the local town hussy being brought home for Sunday Supper.

I miss those day honestly.

Be happy---sounds like a smart kid if you really want my opinion. He will find his way on way or another.