YSDs gender reveal party
DH spent the passover seders Monday and Tuesday night with the skids. This morning I got a long recap, he had a great time and everyone loved his food and told him he had to bring it again. Then he said, "There's one more thing. Don't be mad, I know we have plans Saturday but you and DDs don't have to go if you dont want to."
Long convoluted story about pregnant YSD on the fence about finding out the gender of her baby that ended with OSD offering to host an impromptu Gender Reveal party this Saturday. DH forwarded me the invite. This Saturday at 1130 we are invited for cocktails, brunch, games, and the big reveal at 2pm. Submit your guess to join a team by 5pm Friday!
Any other weekend we would shift things around and go, but we don't just 'have plans'. It's Easter, and spring break, everyone is taking Friday off and my entire family is gathering at my sisters house to spend the weekend together. There is an itinerary and everything, including an egg dyeing and decorating competition on Friday, a giant adults/kids Easter egg hunt on Saturday (both things DH and DDs LOVE doing together) and family photos on Sunday before church.
I remind DH of all of this and he tells me to take the girls and go enjoy and he will join us on Sunday in plenty of time for pictures. I say the party is over at 2, he can be at my sisters by 530. He says he would miss the day activities and the group dinner is at a buffet so he may as well drive up Sunday morning. Also, "the guys" invited him to golf after the party so he will probably go with them. There it is - the real reason why he doesn't want to come directly from the party, more bonding time with SS, SSILs and YSDs FIL. He doesn't even play golf. He has clubs he's used 3 times in 10 years.
I tell him that I am disappointed he is backing out of longstanding family plans. He says when important things come up we need to be flexible and that's what he's doing.
Important is debatable. Women have gone for generations without the need for gender reveal parties. My problem is before last year this would never have been an issue. DH would have said we already have plans and can't make it. We were on the same page about nearly everything and now we are not on the same page. We used to consult each other about everything, make decisions together. Now if it involves the skids he decides what he's going to do and to do and tells me what he's decided. And now he's decided to miss out on 2 fun days with our family. DDs and I will not be changing our plans on such short notice. We are going on Friday as planned and DH can stay and enjoy his slice of pink or blue cake.
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I agree. It gets so "show-y"
I agree. It gets so "show-y" and it's a huge turn off to me.
I agree. It gets so "show-y"
I agree. It gets so "show-y" and it's a huge turn off to me.
big showers for second and
big showers for second and third babies are as stupid as gender reveals. GROSS!!
I disagree with showers for
I disagree with showers for second or third babies.
We do them for each and every baby. We do them after the baby is home and is 4-6 weeks old.
It's not about the gifts, it's about meeting the baby.
I think that new babies
I think that new babies deserve new things too. They shouldn't only get hand me downs from their siblings.
I'm not talking cribs and highchairs and strollers, but new crib sheets, their own new blanket, new sleepers, clothes and stuffies.
Each child is special in their own right.
We've all seen posts on here about how upset SMs get when DH wants to use his older children's things for HER first baby!
All 3 of the skids are well
All 3 of the skids are well off, spouses too, and their kids will want for nothing. These are the last people that need a present grab. But you should have seen the wedding registries last year. And they got every last thing they registered for. No registry for YSD yet for the baby, but I'm sure it's coming.
I had a shower thrown for me
I had a shower thrown for me with my BS17 and again for my BS7. 10 years apart. Should I have told my family to check etiquette with Miss. Manners before they decided to throw me a baby shower 10 years apart?
I think I have heard of the
I think I have heard of the parties termed "sprinkles" vs "showers".
I absolutely think a celebration for each impending baby is fine. Certainly, there may be time between kids, different genders etc...
Not everything is reusable or able to be stored long term either.
I don't think big ticket items should be expected for the later babies, but certainly a party where the guests might bring a new outfit, toy, diapers or blanket for the newest arrival should be fine.
I might also not expect certain people to be involved in 2nd shower situations.
Like co-workers or church acquaintances etc.. Immediate family and friends are ok.
I would tell him to not
I would tell him to not bother coming at all.
I hate gender reveal parties, never been to one but the idea of them is stupid (and on Easter weekend?). And no, it's not an important enough thing for him to back out of the plans he already had with you and the girls.
I would tell him to stay his
I would tell him to stay his ASS behind.
So NOT a fan of the gender reveal parties.
When DD26 told me she was pregnant, I said "yahooooooo and don't have one of those stupid reveal things."
Her response? "oh, puleeeeze - those things are so stupid and there is NO WAY I am spending that much time on effing Pinterest."
Shortly thereafter, she called me up and told me she was having a girl
She is a lot like you,
She is a lot like you, actually. Practical, no bull shit. Frugal. Responsible. You two would get along great
Oh, for sure! She has been
Oh, for sure!
She has been head strong since the day she was born. It wasn't hard to parent her - she was just one of those kids who naturally has a good head on her shoulders.
ETA - I was raised by a woman who went back to school and worked full time when my dad left. What time she did have left over was spent in the pursuit of poisoning us against my dad and SM.
Was she strong? I suppose - I mean, she was raising four kids (two of whom were her niece and nephew) by herself while working and going to nursing school, but I would not categorize her as "good."
I take very little credit for
I take very little credit for how they turned out, really.
I also take very little blame when they screw up, and they do.
I believe that kids are like balloons - when they are little, you fill them up with your knowledge, show them right from wrong, hold them accountable. Then you launch them and hope they fly
Truth be told, she is far more level headed than I am.
Yeah - both Asshat and I
Yeah - both Asshat and I raised them the same way post divorce. Imagine my surprise when I discovered how DH parents :O
He was such a better parent when he didn't have custody and we were hauling our asses back and forth across the state.
Oh well, not my circus, not my monkeys.
YUP! And I say this as a
YUP! And I say this as a grandmother to be!
Ouch. I am really sorry
Ouch. I am really sorry about your husband's response. I feel almost bad admitting this, but since finding this site I realize how lucky I am with my DH. We were invited to SD's gender reveal this last fall (she set it up with 3 weeks notice) but we had long-standing plans and didn't even need to discuss it - we didn't change our plans for her gender reveal. So, we were the "assholes" who didn't show up but ask us if we care. We do not. She knew about our plans (we have texts to prove it). I get why she picked the day she did, but we just couldn't make it work, so Oh well!! We sent well-wishes via texts on the day of (they texted us the reveal pictures) and called it a day. No resentment, no regret.
It does sound like your DH is super attached to his other family. That would call for a long honest conversation in my book.
Right because Easter isn't
Right because Easter isn't about small children it is about adults. :?
right? Clearly not Orthodox.
right? Clearly not Orthodox.
"he's skipping your side's
"he's skipping your side's party for golf with ex relatives"
This part left me going :jawdrop:
Ex relatives?? He's going golfing with his son, and the male in-laws. When does a child of a parent stop being a relative and become an ex relative? Seriously. Is that how all fathers think of their children they have if they divorce and remarry? That those previously born children are now ex relatives?
He's going to his daughter's baby gender reveal. His daughter. Every bit of still his daughter aka his relatives aka his flesh and blood as the two younger daughters are his children aka his relatives aka his flesh and blood.
There's nothing "ex relative" about it.
As to the gender reveal party? IMO, I think such events are silly. IIRC, didn't pregnant daughter just turn her adult only birthday party into a pregnancy announcement party. Sheesh, talk about overkill. I do think Mrs. Zipper has every right to be angry and hurt that Dad is dumping their weekend Easter tradition plans to go to a baby reveal party and then golfing. I'm sure his young daughters will be disappointed that a family event Mr. Zipper has helped form with these daughters doesn't seem to matter much to Dad this year. I think his decision is wrong.
Since I'm giving out my two cents , I'll add my take on what's up with Mr. Zipper. I think it's the adult male bonding, being part of the guys thing, that he's enjoying and sucking up...not so much suddenly wanting to spend time with his older daughters. I don't know how much male companionship this guy usually has up until recently, but I'm thinking he's been busy raising kids and working hard and he's put male socialization with other adult males on hold .
Maybe I'm reaching on this last part, but Mrs. Zipper did say up until recently DH had no troubles just saying 'sorry, already have plans' or whatever. The wedding, the adult parties. In my opinion, it's not his older kids, it's the new found male adult 'friends' and activities he's pumped on.
3 days notice! As if we are
3 days notice! As if we are supposed to drop everything and go.
Your kids are doing things he
Your kids are doing things he has already done before.
Well, that is too bad, her kids are his kids, too, and he did decide to start all over and do it again, so....
That's a pretty shitty excuse
That's a pretty shitty excuse and it's a little too late for him to decide he doesn't want to do all that stuff over again, being as he has already created these kids. Her DH is being a selfish ass. You don't cancel plans you already had for a "better gig," that's just rude and hurtful.great lesson he's teaching the younger ones, and now the older ones know they can get him to cancel plans with his wife and other kids if they invite him to their activity. Total and utter crap, any way you want to look at it
AMEN.
AMEN.
I never bothered with a
I never bothered with a gender reveal, I waited to find out what I was having to keep frivolous spending to a minimum. It worked. I'm a minimalist with an occasional splurge but wasting tons of money on a party to find out if your child is boy or girl is nuts especially in this day when it's common for kids to swap their gender identities like underwear. Whatever. Like the others have said, he's a jerk and being selfish. If it were me I have made a snotty comment that he paid so much money to get skids every other year holiday but in his intake family he just disposes of that time freely...for golf...How unfortunate he's choosing not to be a part of your family holiday but go, enjoy yourself, turn his number on mute and try and have a good Easter with your girls. If he asks how it went, just tell him Uncle Todd hunting eggs with them.
I'm so glad I read this blog.
I'm so glad I read this blog. I was just on Facebook and all of the gender reveal posts/videos are driving me insane. Even the Disney themed ones are annoying the crap oit of me. :sick: :sick:
When in the world did this become the norm??
I blame MTV and their stupid
I blame MTV and their stupid "My Super Sweet 16" show where spoiled little bitches got a sweet 16 party that cost more than most weddings.
Gender reveals and prom-posals, two completely unnecessary and ridiculous, over the top rituals that I could really live without!
YSD and SS both got married
YSD and SS both got married and DH panicked about not being more involved in their lives. I'm sure OSD is not far behind.
I thought DH gave her a full
I thought DH gave her a full 12 place setting and refurbished Gmas cabinet for her.
It was stupid expensive.
Did they use them at the dinner he just went to?
By this I take it to mean you
By this I take it to mean you are supposed to use special dishes for passover? I've seen all the skids eat shrimp and lobster. I don't think they are so strict about that stuff.
We got her 12 place settings,
We got her 12 place settings, BM got 12 place settings and her in laws got 12 place settings so she has a "full set" of 36. YSD hosted Thanksgiving for 40 people, over 30 adults so that's when she used them.
SuperJew, I'm so glad you're
SuperJew, I'm so glad you're posting here. When I read 36, I thought WTF. :jawdrop: But your explanation clears that up.
Based on her religious beliefs, a 36 piece set makes perfect sense.
I don't think people who
I don't think people who don't keep kosher have separate dishes for milk and meat. They just have large dinner parties.
BM and YSDs MIL both have 36
BM and YSDs MIL both have 36 place settings of china. I have never heard of that being common but I guess in some cultures it is. DH told me there were 30+ people at the first seder and 24 people at the second so maybe this is why.
Seems ridiculous to me.
To have that many sets of
To have that many sets of formal china
OT- I just read an article
OT- I just read an article about good china and how young people don't want it. They don't want their own or moms or grandmas.
All these second hand stores are filling up with Royal Albert fine china that no one wants.
An older cousin has hers, her moms, her MILs and both Gmas! All different patterns. Her daughter told her to sell it before she dies because she doesn't want any of it, neither does her daughter.
My exH grandparents had
My exH grandparents had Belleek Irish China. That is one style I love!
They had 12 or 18 settings, service pieces and a high tea set.
It was all lost in a fire. 20 years later 3 of the sisters were still fighting over who would have gotten it if it hadn't been destroyed. Crazy! There was a reason it was all destroyed.
As terrible as it may sound,
As terrible as it may sound, it looks like your husband is readdy to trade in his daddy cap for for a new shiny Grandpa hat. This may be the new normal for you all now that his older children are having kids of their own.
Chances are, by the time your girls are married and start having babies, he will be done with playing Grandpa.
I agree about the grandpa
I agree about the grandpa aspect, as soon as the first grand kid comes he's going to want to be there for the holidays. It'll be a balancing act for sure.
I disagree with his choice on
I disagree with his choice on this one. I would worry that he is starting to dislike having two separated families and is forming some different thoughts to the ones you originally agreed to. I think it is a conversation that needs to occur, most likely with a therapist.
OH my, I first read the title
OH my, I first read the title and thought, how can you know not know what gender you want to be...then I realized you meant a baby.
I thought something
I thought something similar....the whole thing is over my head...
Grandkids are a whole
Grandkids are a whole different ball game. I have 3 gkids and I can vouch for that.
Firstly, I do not have
Firstly, I do not have children, and am pretty immune to the kiddy stuff. I had to read a little bit to actually understand that a "gender reveal party", means gender of baby to yet be born, and not announcement/celebration of person switching genders. Is this really a common thing? I guess it just went over my head.
Secondly, I totally get that DH is wanting to connect better with Elder children, and had spent a bunch of time cooking Sader dinner item, and wanting to be involved in his Jewish Heritage. I can appreciate this, as do you, Mrs Zipper. However you had received a commitment from him, as part of your marriage contract. He agreed to love you and put you first. He fulfilled that previous obligation, and now needs to fulfill the current obligation. He basically does not WANT to. And he is doing what HE wants to with no regard for you or DD's feelings. It is ALL about him and what he wants and he that he can waltz along like this, is very telling of how he regards YOU and his youngest children.
Have a great time with your family, Zipper, and definitely have a strong conversation with DH about your feelings prior, so you know that YOU have tried.
"He says when important
"He says when important things come up we need to be flexible and that's what he's doing."
The birth of the grand baby is an important thing. Finding out the sex is not.
You have every right to be upset.
I'm sure he thinks in
I'm sure he thinks in overreacting because he will be there for Easter. I have a problem with him dropping plans and running to the skids at the drop of a hat.
Let him do what he wants. It
Let him do what he wants. It isn't really worth the battle. But do tell him that in the future you would appreciate it if he discussed plans with you first before confirming as you are his wife and especially because you two had previous plans.
From another blog, he's not
From another blog, he's not very religious and together he and Mrs Z decided to raise their children Christian.
I think this is the skid who
I think this is the skid who didn't invite her sisters to her wedding, saying there wasn't room.
Yet at the wedding there was a table of kids and SD had just snubbed her sisters.
It was a childfree wedding.
It was a childfree wedding. The only children there were kids of those in the wedding party. Otherwise, Zipper said she was good older sister. She even included a gift with her thank you to them.
Wait now, that was because it
Wait now, that was because it would be both him and BM walking her up the aisle.
He wanted to make sure that his wife was okay with him portraying the happy first family for this wedding.
I realize that it's a Jewish
I realize that it's a Jewish tradition but MrZ took the time to make sure that his wife was ok with it. He did what most SMs want, he put his wife and her feelings first.
Obviously the Jewish traditions weren't as important to him as they are to others.
I think this change in him, his no longer talking to MrsZ before committing to things is what has her upset.
Guess it depends who he want
Guess it depends who he want to upset.
His wife or his adult children.
DH is agnostic. He doesn't
DH is agnostic. He doesn't care and my family does so we went with the stronger opinion. He has shown basically no interest in doing anything jewish until the skids got married and he wanted to be more present in their lives.
Nothing wrong with that
Nothing wrong with that except that he's bailing on plans already made with his family.
He's going to have to get better at balancing the two.
Your H can be very persuasive
Your H can be very persuasive when he wants something, can't he? He's presented his defection very tidily, making it sound so reasonable. No need to dwell on how rude it will be to flake on preexisting plans or how he'll be missing important family time with his younger children; he has an answer for everything.
I'm sorry, Mrs. Z. I have no advice. This is bad form, just very bad form wrapped in a pretty, patronizing bow.
Sometimes when people marry
Sometimes when people marry others from different cultures and faith, they think it's all good and dandy but many times those differences do manifest themselves eventually. And these differences sometimes are too fundamental.
I suspect that your Jewish DH agreed on raising kids Christian because religion is Important for you. I highly doubt he stopped caring about his own traditions even if he isn't religious. But why can't you all combine the events?
Your DH is being rude to you with all these ridiculous plans. I don't understand why you and the kids do not attend events in his older kids families? You don't need to be Jewish to participate. Do you not want to or you are Not invited? Why isn't he taking your kids with him?
If your kids are raised Christian, does it mean they can't share Jewish tradition at all?
BTW Easter egg hunt has
BTW Easter egg hunt has nothing to do with Christianity.
This was planned while he was
This was planned while he was there. It was a thrown together thing over dinner.
He could have very easily said next weekend won't work for me, I already have plans.
My bet is he didn't say anything because he knows they won't change plans to accommodate him. He was feeling all warm and fuzzy and reconnected with his adult kids and wanted it to continue.
I get what you're saying,
I get what you're saying, thanks. I'm trying to roll with it and understand that this is his first grandchild and he's excited. But I do feel betrayed that he drops everything to cater to the skids. It's complicated.
YOu will not be able to
YOu will not be able to change his mind, DH choose to be with his Ex family instead of his current family,
I'm a bitch, Easter or not, he wants flexibility - he will get it.....
First I will explain to my daughters they are not important enough to Daddy and he does not want to be with them on Easter and they should ask him about it.... then I will be flexible, I will get my whole family not to be at home on Sunday.... DH can sit in his car in front of a locked up house for hours.... I will not even answer my phone.....
and what about his 2 minor
and what about his 2 minor daughter he has with OP?
Also his adult children's BM is always with them... making it his Ex wife and her parents...
not going to argue with
not going to argue with you.... but in short
her DH is going to his adults kids with his Ex wife at her parents house..... how is that not his Ex family?
DH is not a practicing jew, his first set of children took up the religion under BM's care and this is where it's going to be, with her family....
that's what I understood from her previous blog...
OP, aren't your daughters
OP, aren't your daughters teenagers?
It's kind of hard to imagine that teens will be upset that daddy isn't there to watch them color and hunt eggs.
So he has one set of children
So he has one set of children old enough to start having families of their own and one set still in elementary school????
This not going to turn out well for the younger kids.
No gender reveal party or
No gender reveal party or pics of it happening but we do have a friend who cried both times she found out she was having girls because she wanted boys.
here's what gets me. i think
here's what gets me. i think the older kids distanced themselves from dear ol' dad for a while. then he gets an invite to the wedding in exchange for a expensive contribution to their china collection, and he gets all giddy and excited that they finally wanted him around for something. so i think now he's going to jump at any invitation so they won't distance themselves from him again.
it's not the (imho, stupid!) gender reveal - if it was that, he'd go, then head to OP's family's Easter weekend after. but he was also invited out to the group dinner and also out to play golf. instead of finding a compromise or middle ground, he's jumping at any and every invitation because he's MORE afraid to "lose" them again and LESS afraid of how it affects his wife and younger children.
he will end up being their puppet ala Mr.StepAside (before *he* had a reality check). Mr. Zipper needs instead to learn to handle both sides of his family instead of asking "how high?" whenever his older kids say "jump."
It did not sit right with me
It did not sit right with me either. In all the years we had been together he had not done anything like that. And then he did it again for SS's wedding. We have joint everything except for a few investment accounts and he's taking the extra above what we agreed out of those to fund these purchases. We both do very well it's not a money issue it's a communication issue.
There is a 13 year gap. DH is
There is a 13 year gap. DH is late 50s I am mid 40s. There are plenty of people on this site with much larger gaps. We have been together for over 15 years I wouldn't call it a mid life crisis.
As this thread goes on and
As this thread goes on and new theories are postulated I think it comes down to good manners.
He made plans with MrsZ her family and their children. Along came another option, maybe a better one in his eyes, and he bailed on the first plans.
It is rude on his part.
If this was a skid, who'd made plans with the family and then ditched them because something that they thought was more fun was going on at BMs there would be hell to pay.
Oh I agree with you. Why is
Oh I agree with you.
Why is going to spend this time with his adult kids better than plans that were already made?
He's saying it's because it's about the grandkid that's coming, that it's an important life event. Is it really or is it him wanting to be with the first family?
I doubt he even knows or understands it.
They definitely need to figure out this new hitch in their relationship and how they are going to negotiate thru grandkids if their relationship is going to survive. That's part of being married, getting thru changes.
All I'm saying is that it's rude to dump one group because something you find more fun or attractive came along.
An adult should be better, should do better.
Blah blah blah Everyone can
Blah blah blah
Everyone can come up with all sorts of excuses and justifications about his actions. None of that really matters. When it all comes down he just would rather spend his time with someone other than his wife and younger children. That would not be acceptable to me. But then I am not his wife.