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what level of selfishness is normal?

Left out mama's picture

My SD8 lives with my SO and I full time ( I have no bio kids, so its just the 3 of us). She just returned from a nightmare vist with the BioHO. She went through alot of moving around, not having any fun summer activities that kids should have. She was basically passed from one person to the next to sit around and do nothing so her unemployed BioHo could 'hang out with her friends'. So given this, I have been pretty laxed with her because emotionally she is going through alot because of her bad summer. She had been promised all kinds of great things by BioHo and it was built up that she was going to have this great, magical, wonderful summer with her mother. Instead she got hit with the reality that her mother lied to her, never kept her word, and never made her feel important. A child  having to see that a parent is not everyting they want them to be is hard for a kid to accept. All kids want their parents to be good, having ot come to terms with it not being true is alot for a kid to handle.

This was the first visit that they have had in TWO YEARS because BioHo was in jail and missed her visitation last summer. (BioHo lives on the other side of the country, and gets visitiation during the summer and school breaks, but this was the first visit in two years)

Anywho, I know that children have a tendancy to be selfish. Thats jus the way it is. They are still learning social awarness, they have yet to figure out how thier actions effect others. It is a learning process for them, I know. So I dont think my SD8 is selfish because she is simply a selfish person or narcissitic. But, sometimes I wonder....

So I was hoping for some feed back on some of her recent behaviors..... what is normal for her age, or do I need to be concrened?

This morning, I was getting her ready to bring to her grandmothers house. (Her grandmother runs a daycare, out of her home, and this is where some kids catch the school bus, including my SD). Anywho, as we are getting ready to leave she puts a comb in her pocket and says she will do her hair at the daycare. I told her she has a hairbrush in my car and her backpack, she should leave the comb at home. She says that she needs the comb because it is easier to part her hair with. I know this is BS because this is a new comb that I got her so I could part her hair for when she want "fancier hair styles" , and she has always just used a hairbrush otherwise. Because I have been focusing on trying to micromange less (I admit I have done this in the past and it does nothing but cause damage). So, I let it go.... fine bring your comb even though I know its BS.

Afterwards, I got thinking....wait....she knows Grammys rules about bringing combs and hairbrushes to the daycare....its a no. Because kids leave stuff like that out, other kids use it and that is how lice is spread.... plus kids get mad cause other kids are now passing around stuff that belongs to them.

But it got me wondering.... her whole trying to negotiate with and BSing me.... was it just her deciding she really wanted to try and make her own decisons about what to do her hair with ( which I know is normal, and how they start feeling confident enough to have indepenance)... or was it her deciding "I know the rules, and I chose not following them cause I dont like that rule" (Her mother has this problem and is why she was in jail....also nothing is ever her fault. BioHo is always the victim).

I guesse I want to kow.... is the selfishness in pushing the rules and what I told her to not do, is that part of noraml healthy development where she is trying to assert herself and be a little independnet, or is it blantent disregard for the rules and straight up selfish?

I dont want to micromanage her, and I want her to feel like she can challange people (to a degree) because I want her to be able to make her own independnet choices, and to stand up for her self and her beliefs... but I dont want her to end up like the BioHo who does what she wants, when she wants, with total disreagard for others. How do I find a balance of not micromanaging, allowing her grow her independance and self estem, but not allowing her to push things to far and end up like BioHo?

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lieutenant_dad's picture

This little girl needs some therapy to help her figure out good coping mechanisms for handling the abandonment by her mother.

Honestly, this could be as simple as she thinks a comb is easier to use (maybe that's all she had all summer and she got used to it) or as bad as her snubbing authority or not feeling like she has any control over her life. I'm not sure you'll be able to figure that out, especially if you're struggling with micromanaging yourself.

So try some therapy for the kid, and also don't allow her to skirt the rules. "SD, you know Grammy doesn't allow combs because of lice. Fix your hair here, but you can take the comb if you promise to keep it in your bag unless you need to use it at school. If you use it at Grammy's house, I will have to take it away."

Left out mama's picture

thank you. I agree she needs thereby and her dad is in the process of trying  to find one...

and I agree I should have reminded her of the rules but I honestly was more focused on trying to get out the door on time and thought of it afterwards.

 

ESMOD's picture

Sometimes kids just want what they want.. sometimes they want to do things and make decisions for themselves.. like when my YSD ended up wearing fishnets and gogo boots to church with her grandma when SHE was 8.. because grandma figured her soul was more important than a fight..lol.

I don't understand the selfish angle tbh..

I don't think she was putting complex thought into .. ooooh here is a rule.. I am going to break it.

I think that pushing to be more self reliant.. taking care of her own hair... choosing her outfits.. is all very normal.. and not selfish at all.. and is ok with parental guidance.

It would have been better if you had remembered yourself the reason why kids aren't supposed to bring hair styling things to the daycare so that you could have redirected her a bit by reminding her why the rule was in place.

"Oh... honey.. you know granny doesn't allow brushes and combs at daycare because it isn't sanitary for kids to share these things.  Plus, I know you would be upset if another child took it from you and broke or lost it.  If you want to go ahead and do your hair with the comb.. you are going to have to do it before you leave and the comb needs to stay here."

Left out mama's picture

I agree... I should have reminded her but it honestly did not cross my mind because I was trying to get out the door on time. Part of the reason she decided to do her hair at Grammys. She spent to long futzing in the bathroom and ran out of time. But yes I agree it was my responsibility to remind her of the rules.

i think In the future I will give her an “either or”. You can either  futz around and take your time... which means hair down or basic poneytail or you can try and stay on task and I’ll have time to help you do something cool with your hair.

she has had a history of being sneaky... and I don’t want her going back to that behavior. 

ndc's picture

This doesn't sound like selfishness to me, and if you weren't thinking of the daycare rule, maybe she wasn't either.

I agree with Lt.Dad that the child could benefit from therapy, though. A safe place to discuss her mother would seem to be a really good thing.