O/T- Surprise for FDH
Hi ladies,
I just need some opinions:
My FDH's 50th birthday is coming up and I know he would enjoy a surprise party.
How much help, if any, is reasonable to expect from his family (mom and brother) ?
I told them my tentative idea, and they gave me their thoughts on it, but they haven't offered any help with expenses or decorating etc.
What do you think, is it all on me?
I'm getting a little stressed because it's coming up soon and I need to start contacting his friends to make sure they are available.
Thanks!!
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You're absolutely right, I
You're absolutely right, I cannot rely on them. I just don't know if I can pull it off on my own though...
When I threw a surprise bday
When I threw a surprise bday party for my (then) DHs 30th, I was 8 months pregnant. The party was held at DHs hometown (2 1/2 hours away from our house, but down the street from his parents, sister and brother's places.
No one lifted one finger to help me pick up food and drinks, decorate, or arrange a single detail. I hinted I needed help but did not ask for help outright. No help was given. Part my bad (for not asking), part theirs for knowing I needed help but not offering an 8-month pregnant woman any help. I didn't ask for financial help, and that was ok by me.
Don't expect squat from them.
P.S. Later I made sure DH knew how much fun and how much work I put into making his day special, and hoping he enjoyed it as much as I did. He assumed his family helped me. I made sure he knew different.
That just all sounds
That just all sounds EXTREMELY WRONG to me. See, this is what I don't understand. Why wouldn't you (esp. if the person is PREGNANT) offer to help with something this big. Why would anyone expect one person to do it all themselves? He is their son and brother. If my brother's wife wanted to give him a big party, the FIRST thing I would do is ask her what I can do to help!
In fact, whenever something is going on, I ALWAYS ask what I can do to help. I suppose there are just a lot of lazy and inconsiderate people out there.
I don't expect financial help since it was my idea, although I can't imagine they would have let his 50th go by without anything happening. I'm just afraid I may feel resentful when they're all sitting there having a good time and eating and drinking everything that I paid for alone, with money I don't really have.
It's all on you financially.
It's all on you financially. If anyone else offers that is a bonus.
However, I think it is permissible to ask family members for help with decorating, specific tasks or keeping him busy while you work on it so it stays a surprise. BUT you can't get mad if someone says no as it is not required.
On a side note, I was at a 50th birthday party recently where a sibling gave the other sibling a getting old kit. It include Depends, gas relief pills, denture cleaner and cream, reading glasses, arthritis rememdies, nose hair trimmers, penis pump, cane, etc.
It was hilarious!
Lol, that sounds exactly like
Lol, that sounds exactly like what his brother would give him.
Thanks for the input
Thanks for the input everyone. I guess I thought I might get some offers to help being that we recently hosted birthday gatherings for his family members here at our house.
The only way I could make it a surprise for him is if we were going out to dinner under the guise of Mother's Day. But that would mean the restaurant is where the party would take place, and I can't really afford something like that right now.
Well, I guess it's all on me unless I outright ask for help. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that.
Oh, we also had Thanksgiving and Christmas here with no help from his family. I was o.k. with this and didn't want to hurt FDH's feelings by saying 'no', but all of this is going to get old always being expected to do most of the work for everything.
BTW, I don't know that it matters, but we're not married. (Hence the 'FDH')
Really? You can invite
Really? You can invite people to a party but them make them pay? Hmmmm, I didn't know this, but I don't know how I feel about it.
I really wanted help in figuring out a way that we could make it a surprise. He is so difficult to catch off guard, and I'm having trouble coming up with dates/places/times that would work.
I thought of two different scenarios that would work, but both involve needing someone else to decorate, and one of those involves having it at one of the relatives homes (which I'm not comfortable asking them to do). I was just hoping that one or two of his family members might offer to help with making it a surprise (without out me having to ask them to). I don't like to put people on the spot.
I really need to get this going though, because I have to call and make sure his friends will be available in the next couple of weeks. I just need to figure out how I'm going to do it first!!! Aaahhhhhh!!
I get the feeling you feel,
I get the feeling you feel, generally, slightly let down by the in-laws-to-be. That can be particularly difficult for SMs because the in-laws-to-be are often less accepting/welcoming of us than they were of the first wife, not because they preferred her, but somehow because second-time-around it feels less significant to them. We have a harder barrier to cross to get involved with the blood family.
In my view you might be better off throwing a smaller party for a circle of friends rather than family. Make clear it is not a snub to family but it is just one of the many celebrations he may like to have and you're thinking of his friendship rather than his family network. That way you may feel happier about and hosting all the guests, without the feeling of resentment that you are developing for having hosted gatherings for a group of people who appear not to be reciprocating or appreciating in the way you would like.
You're right, I feel let
You're right, I feel let down. Although, I know they really like me, and I'm actually the first REAL long-term relationship he's had. He wasn't in one with BM.
I agree with the smaller party with just friends, but he is so close to his family that he would be offended that he didn't get to celebrate with them as well. Even if I had never said anything to his family, and just had a party with friends, they would find out and wonder why I didn't invite them. I don't want to create any animosity.
I really appreciate your understanding and input.
Thanks fightincrazytrain, I
Thanks fightincrazytrain, I really wish that were a possibility. One of the reasons why everything usually takes place at our house is because his parents live in a tiny row home packed with shit an hour away.
It's really frustrating that everything always falls on us because his mother has a problem with buying and hoarding stuff, and therefore never has people to her place.
In other words, she would never even have a family dinner there, so I would end up having TWO parties here...one for family and one for friends.
I don't know, I'm about to say f@#k the whole thing and try to come up with something special for the two of us to do together,then let him know that I tried with the party. We'll still have to have a get together with his family though, so I'll still be cooking or spending a good amount of money.
I had my DH a big surprise
I had my DH a big surprise party in our back yard when he turned 40. I was fortunate enough to be able to afford to have it catered, so I didn't expect or really want my MIL or DH's family to help pay for it, but if it would have been something that DH and I could not afford, I wouldn't have minded asking MIL or DH's sisters if they would be willing to co-host it (meaning co-sponsor!) MIL's main role was to help make the guest list with friends from DH's childhood and track down their addresses for me (and then hound them by calling them and/or their parents when the RSVPs were not returned, a MAJOR problem we ran into.) MIL also made him a cake, which she offered to do and wasn't necessary because I also ordered a dessert with the meal. The main "help" I needed was getting tables and chairs that we rented for the party, which my mom and best friend went with me to pick up and set up, as well as, decorations--I didn't ask DH's family for any help there, but again, it wasn't needed. Had I needed help, I would not have hesitated to ask.
Is it possible your MIL/BIL do not think you need any financial assistance with it? OR, do you think they are not able to contribute financially? If you think they are able to help out, I would not hesitate to see if they are interested. If you don't feel comfortable being direct, maybe you could even just say that you want to do something but can't really afford to do it on your own, so you're not sure what your options are. And maybe if they don't help out, you can still have him a surprise party but keep it to his closest family and friends, which would still make it special.
Thank you so much for your
Thank you so much for your thoughtful response.
They know I can't afford something special, which is why I can't believe that they haven't offered any help or ideas. I suppose I may need to bite the bullet and ask for it.
How did you get all of this set up without your DH knowing about it?
Funny, this was one time the
Funny, this was one time the SKs actually worked to my advantage! While DH was gone on the FOUR HOUR drive roundtrip to get SKs and bring them to our home for the weekend, we were busy setting up the party & getting everything in place in our back yard! My DH was very shocked. He was in a band in high school, and I was able to get all his old bandmates together & they even played a few tunes. I was fortunate that his hometown is about an hour away, so we also were able to get his old high school wrestling coach & other special people from his child hood there, including almost all of his best friends, who had an amazing "mini" reunion. That said, my DH is actually turning 50 this year, and I asked if he wanted a big party like we did for his 40th, and he said NO. I have a couple months to think about it, but I'm leaning towards just having a family party. I think that can be very special, too.
It sounds like you are in this on your own, so if that's the case & it's not financially feasible to throw the party you want, I'd probably just do something special for your FDH that he would love. Maybe there's something you can do that would involve the SKs. For example, my DH loves a specific pro baseball team. For Father's Day, we've taken the SKs and gone to see them play. I think he would love something like that as a birthday gift, too. I know you said your DH is not a sports fan, but maybe there's something like that, or a place that he likes, where you can take him. I truly think what will make it special is that you let him know that you remembered him and went out of your way to celebrate his milestone birthday. Good luck!
Oh how perfect! Hey, My FDH
Oh how perfect!
Hey, My FDH was in a band too. He was the lead singer until he stopped at age 27 or so and went back to college. Some of his friends that I am trying to get together are still in the band.
I wish I would have started thinking about all of this months ago...my fault. We've just had so much going on.
FDH is a big Eagles fan, but obviously football isn't an option right now.
I emailed his mom this morning with a few questions but haven't heard anything back yet. Your right, I think I'm in this alone...I never would've thought this... I bet FDH would be disappointed if he knew his family wasn't offering to help in any way.
Thanks for the good wishes!