not a clue. He has been working a lot of overtime lately and I know he feels bad about not getting ss anything for Christmas. Maybe we can find some at a thrift-store or something...I've never bought one I don't know how much they are. I kind of get where he's coming from though, he is paying all of the mortgage again this month and claims with the extra work he's been doing that the IRS thing is okay. He said at least sleds are a "family activity" that is almost free and can be done any weekend as long as we have snow.