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I don't "lack empathy"- OT vent

iamlosingit's picture

I just tend to focus on the overall facts and figures without letting my emotions get the best of me.

My family has been through a lot over the last five years.  If I let my emotions rule me every time something happened I probably would not have a job right now.

This is not a popular viewpoint with everyone who wants to constantly beat the same problem past death and pulverize it until it is unrecognizable.  Yes, I do rant and rave online.  However this makes the problem "optional".  I'm not shoving my rants down your throat in person; online you can either read it or don't read it and carry on with your day.

DH has a childhood friend who in the almost 9 years we've been together he has only talked to online through Facebook.  This "friend" wasn't invited to any milestones: our wedding, housewarming, birthdays etc and I've never met them.  DH doesn't talk about them much.

Friend is currently being hospitalized due to alcohol overdose and organ failure, the children haven't lived with this parent for almost a year, and friend had been in a medically induced coma for months.

Friend just "came out of it" a few weeks ago.  And now DH is on a "survivor guilt induced fix-it" mission.  So far he has gone to the hospital at least three times a week (non visitation days of course) and spends HOURS on the phone talking to other people about this friend because some of them live out of state and can't be there.  He is spending money he doesn't have on overpriced crap at the hospital gift shop, and since my medical diagnosis (no alcohol while on this medication) has already consumed all of my alcohol. (WTG DH...drink because your stressed about a friend in the HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF DRINKING, that makes sense)

 This friend has been a hard-core drinker for a very long time, liters of liquor each day, and the body couldn't take it anymore.  Treatment was mentioned in the past but the friend didn't want to and the topic was dropped.

I don't know what DH expects from me while this is going on, but he isn't being a husband to me or available for anything going on in our lives at home. 

Friend gets "over-stimulated" easily to the point where they have had to cut many visits short due to over-stimulation.  Friend can't speak, can't write, has to wear gloves to prevent the self-removal of all the tubes and I.V.'s, they are just a complete mess.  Last week this friend "relapsed" and DH is distraught.  I made the mistake of saying not to worry about it too much; you can't put somebody in a coma for months and expect them to be back to their old self immediately.  The body is already having trouble recovering from the alcohol abuse, factor in waking up from a medically induced coma that lasted over a month and YES, you aren't going to have "all good days", it's going to fluctuate.  This led to gaslighting from DH: "when YOUR friend was in the hospital you never said that about THEM" etc. 

Um....DH....when my friend was in the hospital I got the call that he was admitted that day, went and saw him hooked up to tubes/wires, told him I missed him and wanted him to get better (no response given, he was not responsive in general) and not even five hours later I got a phone call saying he was dead.  So NO DH, this isn't the same at all.  There were no words exchanged, no 'final thoughts', no warning.  Also, my friend had an incurable disease....your friend CHOSE to drink themselves into a coma so NO DH this isn't on the same chapter.

I have a hard time finding sympathy for someone who chooses to do drugs, drink, etc and self-destruct their lives.  Maybe that's why I have such a hard time with MIL.  She lived a drug-filled life and is now happily spending the rest of her years mooching off family and getting everything else paid for by the government because she "doesn't feel like" she's ready to enter the workforce due to anxiety.  But for the last 9 years she's been "getting better every day!".  Vomit.

When I get a phone call about mom going nuts again; I don't start drinking and freaking out.  I get as many facts as I can, usually end up posting a rant on Stalk, and start trying to figure out the steps needed to fix the issue.

I know people deal with things in different ways, but I don't think "my method" means I "lack empathy".  However I am having a hard time feeling any "empathy" towards this person. 
Especially a person with young children who did this to themselves.

Rant over.

 

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beebeel's picture

After watching a dear friend's dad drink himself to death in my teens and my SF do a botched job of it himself (he has been hospitalized and put in a coma more times than I can remember)...yeah not much "empathy" there. Empathy requires personal knowledge of what is being experienced. I have never been in a junkie coma...so....

I dont have much sympathy for these drunks, either, as that was reserved for my friend and his baby brother. 

Tell your DH to look up the definition of empathy, because he's using the wrong word. Then ask him how the hell you're supposed to feel sympathetic toward someone you've never met with self-induced problems that will leave children without their father. Then tell him if he would show half the compassion for you as he does some long lost middle school playmate, maybe you would give a fig.

iamlosingit's picture

I think his anger is from me not being like everyone on FB: "this must be so hard for you", "anything we can do?" etc. (again, my friends and family don't know the reason why this 'friend' is in the hospital)  I am dealing with my health crap on my own, I don't have time to "poor baby' DH nor see a reason to do so.  It's like feeling sympathy for someone who gets behind the wheel drunk and kills an innocent family.  I feel nothing for these "damaged people" that cause heartache for others and don't want to get help for the addiction.   

beebeel's picture

Ohhhhh I see. He's not butthurt because you aren't feeling a certain way about his friend. His mantrum is about you not feeling sorry for HIM. You're supposed to feel oh so bad for him losing this "super close friend" that hasn't been part of his life in a decade. He's one of those who makes any "tragedy" all about him. Hence his vaguebook posts. Gross. 

iamlosingit's picture

SS not being neglected but he is definitely losing out on at least 1.5-2 hours of one-on-one time while DH is on the phone with all the people out of state giving updates.

susanm's picture

It sounds like your DH is in need of some attention.  There is nothing he can do for this friend, whom he apparently doesn't even know anymore, that requires him to sit vigil by his bedside.  But doing it and being all bent out of shape seems to be getting him some positive strokes.   Using this guy's illness like that is a little sick frankly.

EDITED TO ADD - If you are feeling snarky you can always remind him to make sure he does a good job on the crevices while giving the guy his next sponge bath.  Smile

Chmmy's picture

Drama. He enjoys the drama. It takes his mind off his own crap.

I tend to worry about other people's problems or focus on something else so I can ignore my own problems but I dont ignore my family!

iamlosingit's picture

I can't believe I didn't think of that......  That makes PERFECT sense!  With all the lawyer crap going on from BM this is finally something "bigger" to focus on and gain attention.

lieutenant_dad's picture

So how is your exit plan coming along?

This behavior by your H shouldn't surprise you. It should embolden you to say "eff it, I'm out".

You ALSO have a health problem. One that he could be helping you resolve by spending his money on, I dunno, any medical treatment you need to make sure you're okay. I'd be BEYOND pissed if I were suffering and worried about my own medical bills but my DH were spending his limited income on someone else's medical care and/or medical support.

Please use this as further catalyst to leave. Have empathy for yourself and GTFO.

iamlosingit's picture

savings unfortunately on hold, after the last visit of injections and pills on top of the ultrasound I am now almost $1200 in the hole.  Just walking through the door of planned parenthood cost me $300 and that was BEFORE the medication.  I'm in a higher "sliding fee scale" because DH made $52000 last year.

lieutenant_dad's picture

All the more reason to scrape together a second job and $150 to file for divorce. You'll be better off financially if you're only supporting yourself.

My fear for you is that you'll ALWAYS be in thid hole due to your H. You'll scrape together $500 here and there, only to have to spend it on his BS.

I get wanting to be financially secure before you leave. But you don't have to be. Find a place to live, even if it's on a couch. File for divorce - if there isn't much to split beside dish towels, let him have it. Just get out.

If I had stayed with my XH until I felt financially secure enough to leave, it would never happen. He would have spend it faster than it came in. My favorite example of this was telling him that we were overspent on our CC so he needed to use his debit card, which had all of $100 on it, while he was at a convention.

With a week, I had put friends asking ME to give them the $80 he owed them for a bunch of games they bought that he'd "pay them back" on.

Seriously. We had a maxxed out CC and $100 in our checking account, and he offered up $80 to our friends for stuff we not only didn't need, but wouldn't even fully own!

This cycle of impoverishment will continue so long as he spend his $52,000 a year like he has $80,000.

ndc's picture

Lieutenant Dad is spot on. You do yourself no favors by staying and trying to save up to leave. Just leave and make sure that everything you earn and do from this point on is for YOU and not for your DH and his ungrateful son.  There's rarely an ideal time to make big changes, so just seize the day, get out and start focusing on you.

TrueNorth77's picture

I guess your DH could just have empathy for this friend and be genuinely worried....however, it's very odd that after 9 years of only some FB messages (although apparently living within visiting distance of each other?), they have had no other contact and now all of a sudden he is standing vigil at his bedside. I'm imagining his friend thinking, wtf is this dude doing, we haven't even seen each other in 9yrs, go home!

Your DH does seem to like the drama, as others have said. At risk of being repetitive (I've said this before), your DH has some of the qualities that I can't stand in people- Vaguebooking, not paying people money they owe on time, and now this over-the-top display of concern for a "friend (more of an aquaintance at this point) that has definitely crossed into the strange zone.

iamlosingit's picture

This "friend" doesn't have any family around, mother passed away due to drugs and father hasn't really been in the picture (until now) due to 'friends' unwillingness to address addiction.  High School acquaintances are as close to "family" as this "friend" has (this particular circle is a 'my parent's were genuinely crap parents' club).  I was told "friend" tried to seek treatment once and was turned away, I don't know how much stock to put in that because unless it was a money issue I didn't think they could do that.  But that is why it is just a small circle around said "friend" for now.  They don't really have a lot of family.  I personally don't care, my parents were crap and I could have turned out worse but didn't.  It's a personal choice.  But I do think this is why DH is so ridiculously involved.