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charlieskeeper1's picture

I have been Stepmum for 3.5 years to a now 7 year old boy. I was Stepmum prior for 7 years to 2 other kids & that was a very positive experience all round with the children & their wider family.

My kids (14 & 13) & I have a great relationship with my Stepson & he is really happy with us, going as far as saying he wishes he could live with us. Of course, he loves his Mummy though.

His Mum totally ignores me & my girls & worse, is sometimes rude & nasty to us which stuns my partner into silence. My Stepson sees this & doesn't like it. Over the years, he has said things like "I don't know why my Mummy does that", "I think I might have to talk to her about it" & "I wish Mummy would be your friend". He has seen that we speak nicely with his Nanna, his Aunt & his former Stepdad, so even at 7, I think he realises where the issue lies.

She is intermittently 'nice' to my partner in front of us. At other times she is very difficult with him & always controlling which he struggles to push back on. I am struggling to deal with the unfairness of how she treats us, especially as she knows we are great with her boy. We entertain him, do age appropriate activities, do schoolwork & treat him like he is the same as the rest of us.

On the one occassion she asked to meet & speak with me she praised me & my girls up. The reason for this turned out to be that she was keen to show off her new partner & present a happy blended family. Since using us for this we're back to being ignored. She makes random decisions such as stopping my partner seeing his son when she heard about me (they'd been split for ages & in separate houses for 6 months before he & I even met). She sent me tactical communications on social media intending to split us up, even setting up a fake account. She then married a new partner within 4 months of dating him & planned to emigrate with him & my Stepson. A costly custody case ensued which all went my partner's way. She then split from her husband a few times & just after a year they're divorcing. She's since had another relationship (ended too). With time on her hands, she's back to being difficult with us & reaching out to my partner at any opportunity, even inviting him into her home. Yet, when she was in relationships kept him at bay. I fear she is back in trouble-maker mode by being nice to him but visibly excluding us. CAFCASS previously reported that she has behaved like a woman scorned.

My partner says all the right things to me but seems unable to pluck up the courage of setting her straight, saying no to her demands, explaining the upset caused to his son, how hurtful & unecessary her behaviour is towards us & that she's lucky he has a good step-family.

This year, I've had a baby and a few days later got diagnosed with cancer & had an emergency life/death operation. I've improved a lot but have two more operations to come, plus lifelong monitoring. With all this and realising life can be short & is precious, mentally, I cannot comprehend how another mother can be so vile, especially at times like this. I feel my energy draining daily with thoughts of good intentions towards my Stepson and his Mum. I consider writing to her, explaining what her son observes, sharing how things could be better for his sake etc. I fear it would fall on deaf ears, so then conclude it would be a waste of time & I shouldn't spend any more time thinking.

She has very few friends, relationships are short, actively cuts people out of her son's life (grandparents, her sister, us) & anyone in my partner's life who knew her cannot stand her. No-one has a positive word to say.

So, do I try to be nice & approach her in writing or just give up & let her son keep seeing this, knowing that one day he will not thank her for this.

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GrudgingSM's picture

First, I'm so sorry to hear about your diagnosis and your upcoming surgeries. 

It is totally great that there's a healthy dynamic between the kids. It's also great that your skid seems to accurately read the BM's behavior and senses that it's inappropriate. While I can't say for sure because I can't predict the future, no good will come of you trying to write to the BM! She might even respond kindly (big maybe), but in my situation, the BM tries to create a victim - rescuer - aggressor dynamic between herself, me, and DH all the time. And the BM in your case is already showing signs of high conflict, like trying to poison the kid against you, creating fake social media accounts, trying to take the kid abroad. An email is NOT going to fundamentally change this person. Life IS short and precious, and as much as you can, I would stop giving your energy and compassion to this person because it's just going into a blackhole. You CAN be loving, accepting, and comforting to your skid when he's upset by her behavior (without saying bad things about her), but really and truly, you can't fix what you didn't break, and it sound like she needs more than an email to really get right.

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I am touched that you took some of your precious time to respond. Thank you!

Seeing your words in writing has nicely slapped me in the face & reassured me that the right thing to do is carry on being myself, as that suits my Stepson & our family. I will elimiate any thoughts of trying to reach out to his BM. At the end of the day, he is her son so if she sets him bad examples that he sees, it will be her who is answerable to him when he is older, not me.

 I'll try to get myself less wound up on the times when the BM is out of order with us so that I can focus my efforts in places where they can be better used.

Thank you again. I will save your reply & re-read at any 'nice' moments of weakness.

ESMOD's picture

My SD's also had a mother who could be difficult and was not particularly nice when it came to me or her ex.  But, her girls knew how she was.. she was someone that just had conflict after conflict with people.  She was a confronter but rarely had the self awareness to see her part in whatever was going wrong.

So, with people like them.. in some ways it's not personal.. and while that's tough when it FEELs personal.. these are people that are generally unhappy with themselves and are reflecting that out wards.

Yes.. her son being a bit awkward about her behavior.. he knows.. and he likely understands that she is acting like a horse's behind.. but at the same time, she is his mother and he is able to compartmentalize those feelings from some of her negative actions.

The way I dealt with it was basically to reduce and avoid any interraction with her.  There is no way that a rational conversation would have fixed this issue with her.. so the best thing was to minimize contact and relevance in our lives.

 

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you for your thoughts.

It seems that avoidance is best. This goes against my friendly nature and I do like to try to sort things out for the best of everyone, even if conversations are difficult. However, with a high conflict person it's probably best for me to steer clear and keep myself away from her dramas.

JRI's picture

You are doing the right thing for your SS.  Even at his young age, he understands and appreciates it.  He also sees that his mom is not acting correctly.  Keep doing what you are doing, don't badmouth BM to him or let him overhear you saying anything negative.  As a BM and SD of 5 who are all now in their 50's, I believe children see things with laser clarity, ours did, the good and the bad.

This BM is very high conflict.  Don't write to her or do anything else.  When you must be in her presence, be polite and civil.  Doing anything, reaching out, is a waste of your precious time and energy.

I am so sorry to hear of your illness and hoping for your best possible outcome.  Good luck.

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you for taking time to share your thoughts. Hearing someone else tell me NOT to reach out & to carry on as-is is hugely reassuring. Based on your & feedback from others, it seems the general consensus is that no good would come from reaching out anyway.

I've felt hurt enough, so it's time for this to stop. She is not deserving of how me & my kids are but it won't be her who has memories of us, it's her son. So, I will stay assured that when he's older, we can hold our heads high knowing we behaved maturely & in his best interests.

Thank you!

CLove's picture

I will reiterate what everyone else is saying. Dont waste your time. Focus on your bio, getting healthy and your marriage. SS is seeing how things go with his mother, and he knows what shes about.

MY particular brand of advice would be to make certain that SS knows that "he doesnt have to choose between you, he can love EVERYONE". I have the same situation, and Munchkin SD14 and I have a great relationship. Her mother is super toxic, especially to me, but also DH. Munchkin sees this always. But, again I make certain that she knows its ok to love everyone, there is no necessity to choose who to love and who not to love. This is important so as not to activate any loyalty binds in the child.

Of course stay positive about the mother. And support your husband. Talk to him at length about the need to create and enforce boundaries. If he didnt have them before and suddenly things change, yes, you will be called controlling and he will be called pathetic, but so what, as long as boundaries are created and enforced.

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you! The message is loud & clear. It is time for me to forget about her behaviour, accept there is nothing I can do (or should do) & focus on staying a kind Stepmum & put the energy into that relationship without BM distraction.

I will keep reminding my partner of boundary slips when I see them & it'll be up to him what stance he takes. I can only advise...

SopranoKaty's picture

I just wanted to say that I've experienced so many of the same awful things that you write about here! While I'm absolutely in no position to give any advice because I have no clue how to deal with this stuff, I can say that the comments and suggestions given by others here seem wise (and I should take them into account too!).  I am just starting to come to terms with the fact that no matter how much I want to write BM, she has a) never responded well and indeed often made things worse after I've written her and b) she will never change and if she does it sure as hell won't be because of me! Hang in there, it must be absolutely horrible to have that toxic energy in your life, especially when dealing with so many other serious things. I wish you a speedy recovery!! 

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you for sharing. I am sorry to hear you suffer the same issues. Hopefully the lovely sentiments people have shared on here can help you too.

I guess we need to toughen up.our emotions so that we are no longer challenged/hurt by the action of someone not deservingbof our time & energy.

Good luck to you!

Wicked stepmo.'s picture

Definitely all of the above. Focus on your home, you can say nice things about BM in SSs presence so he doesn't feel uncomfortable.

But do not waste anymore of your time, effort and energy on trying to have a relationship with BM. Because the bottom line is she doesn't want one with you. Any attempts of her being nice to you, is due to an alterior motive on her part and will not be genuine.

I made reasonable effort to be the good guy with BM in the beginning. The minute I realized she was a lying, conniving, manipulative child. I cut off all contact immediately. I don't even acknowledge her existence. 

 

charlieskeeper1's picture

Thank you WickedStepmo! You are right! It is hugely reassuring to hear from others who have been decent & concluded there is no benefit to putting energy into a blackhole. I will stop! My mental health needs to switch off from this.

lieutenant_dad's picture

From my experience, it's best to focus your energies on what you can control in your own life, which would be the relationship you have with your SS and how his presence impacts your home.

BM and I had a rough introduction. DH introduced us, she looked me up and down, and turned her back to me. Cool. It's not like we were in public, in front of her kids or anything (oh, wait, we were). I heard later that she talked crap about me (not surprised, she did the same to DH). We did have a year where we all got along(ish), but I think it was a similar situation to what you described. She was either trying to impress someone, or it was a good year or something.

We're not enemies now, but I have little to no use for BM in my life. Her kids see that she has been part of the problem, and it has bit her in the rear. I don't wish ill will upon her, and I truly hope she gets her sh*t together. But I have stopped trying to focus any energy on a relationship with her and focused it on my marriage and helping my DH raise good sons.

It's not easy. I still get angry with her. I still roll my eyes when I hear certain things. I make comments I should probably keep to myself (not to her or the kids, but to DH). But, I don't consider her feelings much when I do parental stuff. Sure, I'm not going to participate in a mother-son event, but I'm not going to worry that if I take pictures of the boys that it will upset her. Had she not wanted another woman in her kids' lives, she should have worked harder on her marriage to DH. I'm not going to feel guilty for existing and making connections within my own family structure and household.

All that said, your DH needs to create some boundaries with her if he hasn't already. I wouldn't advise that he speak up every time she opens her mouth. However, he should put a very clear boundary between your family and her. In your home, things run differently. In your home, BM is to be respected by her son (and you two in public - privately, it's different). In your home, your DH talks through things with his son and sheds light onto lies that BM may say. DH should be telling BM no and telling her when he hears lies about him so she knows that he's not in the dark, but it needs to be factual and focused, devoid of feelings. A "you told SS this thing, it's not true, I corrected it, and I will continue to correct him."

BM is your DH's battle, not yours. Focus on what it within your realm, and leave her in his. You can be supportive of him amd even offer advice if he asks (and he listens), but this is fot him to deal with. He, not you, produced SS with her. If he didn't want to deal with her, he shouldn't have had a child with her. Sounds cruel, but it's the truth. 

So stop trying to befriend her. Stop thinking you're going to change her mind. She's purposefully being obtuse, just like you're purposefully trying to be kind. It's a choice on her part, and you can't/won't be the one to convince her to be better. 

charlieskeeper1's picture

Wow, thank you so much. You are absolutely right about having no use for the BM in my life. You've made me realise,  I do not need a thing from her! I'm not the one who leaves my child with other people. My kids are in my home 7 days a week. If she chooses to have a crappy relationship with someone who is entrusted with her child then what an absolute careless fool she is.

I envisage still struggling to get my partner to firm-up when she is out of order. He is very non-confrontational & lives in fear of upsetting her to the degree that she stops contact (again). That said, they have a Shared Residence court order in place now so all he'd need to do would be to call the police. Sadly, he is still weak where she is concerned. It's complicated linked to his upbringing, his relationship with his Mum, how the BM kind of replaced his abusive mother as an abusive partner so he is quite fragile where the BM is concerned. It frustrates the life out of me but I do not want to bang heads with him anynore as her behaviour invariably causes upset between us. This must stop as literally the only thing we ever have cross-words about is her. I see this is wrong & I must be stronger in my own mind to avoid that. I am going to try to remember what you said about me having no use for her in my life.

Thank you so much.

lieutenant_dad's picture

Glad you're taking that approach, but don't stop pushing him to be a better parent and put up better boundaries, either. Those poor boundaries creep in to your life.

Example: my DH is non-confrontational, too, and BM was abusive to him in their relationship. The first time he had to travel for work, I drove him to the airport. I asked him what his flight info was and where he was staying when he got there. Seemed like a pretty normal, innocuous question.

DH got immediately snippy with me and told me it wasn't any of my business. I damn near left him on the side of the road. I told him that was a BS response to me that I didn't deserve, and I wanted to know where he would be in case something happened since I would be the person that was contacted.

After I bluntly informed him that he was wrong and about to walk to his plane, he apologized and explained that BM used to throw literal fits when he had to travel, and he couldn't always tell her where or for how long (military).

It was a response to the toxicity and abuse in their relationship, but I sure as hell wasn't going to be the emotional punching bag for his pent-up feelings about it all (and vice versa). If his responses to me for normal conversations were going to be bitey and angry, while he kept a civil-to-friendly tone with BM for the "sake of his kids", he could pack his stuff and go. I wasn't going to get his anger and frustration just because he was scared to direct it at the source.

So, in your efforts to disengage from all things BM, don't let your partner be a crappy parent AND partner to you. If he wants to be in a relationship, then HE has to do the work to get past his own trauma and emotional fallout. It's not your job to walk on egg shells with him. It's his job to be healthy enough to put up boundaries and address issues head-on.

DH and I have been together for many years, and he STILL has pieces of past trauma that pop up. And I keep reminding him that I'll support him as he works through those feelings, but I won't be the dumping ground for them. If he doesn't want to bump heads with me, then HE needs to fix the situation that is causing US problems.

charlieskeeper1's picture

Well, that's reaffirmed that I should point out when he lets the boundaries slip. I feel like a stuck record but will persist to hopefully one day get through to him.