This is how it could be
Like most people, we are currently shelter in place. We’ve had my Daughter (15) and SD2 (13) for the entire time. Over the weekend we had our wedding anniversary and we celebrated Easter. Because of how badly SD1 has always behaved surrounding our wedding (she threw a huge fit minutes before called BM to pick her up, we were an hour away so thankfully that didn’t happen but, she made sure to wreck every picture she was in) we never celebrated our anniversary with our children. Because SD1 is not really a part of our lives (except through SD2) this anniversary was so much different. It made me understand how good things can really be. It was beautiful to celebrate with our girls. They were so sweet to us made cookies and seemed so genuinely happy to be a part of our celebration. It never occurred to me that we should have been celebrating with them all along because it is their anniversary too. It is the anniversary of us becoming a family and they both made it clear how grateful they were we became a family. Honestly this was the best anniversary we’ve ever had. I couldn’t be happier. This is how life can be when you remove a toxic person from your life. It can be so beautiful. It can leave space for everyone to feel good and for everyone to celebrate. I loved up our girls at the end of the night and told them how grateful I am for both of those babies…and nothing I’ve ever said could be truer.
But you take the good with the bad because this is the opposite of how it should be.
I had a couple of frank conversations with DH about my need for boundaries with SD1 and asked that she not be invited in our home for any reason (she picks up SD2 when BM is too lazy and just comes in without being invited), I asked for no contact meaning I don’t want her invited to holidays, for family brunch, and I don’t want either of us stepping in to save her from any of her bad decisions. I asked that my daughter not have to engage with her in person in any way. I also asked that if either DH or I had contact with SD1 that we would tell each other, no secrets. DH was resistant, even though our therapist suggested the same. He says things like I’m not ready to give up on her yet. It feels like he’s passive aggressively admonishing me for wanting these boundaries. He said on big holidays he wouldn’t be comfortable not seeing her so he would likely spend half of these days with her and away from our family (I was afraid to ask where he would be doing this…with BM? Ugh). I get it, I can’t imagine what it feels like to need to have boundaries with your own daughter, but we all do, and I can’t get on board with him leaving us on important dates for her. It feels like the wrong message and it feels like a threat to our marriage. We had another wonderful celebration of Easter with SD2 and my daughter. It was fun and sweet, and our girls were so grateful for it. So was I! Just as good as it could be in the current situation. Until over DH’s shoulder I see he is texting SD1. Ugh, I assume it was just a happy Easter message, but it felt like a slap in the face. He didn’t tell me he contacted her, and I think part of what is needed with her is her to feel the loss of us, well him. I keep thinking it could help her make changes if she actually has the consequence of losing a real relationship with her father. I know it’s a leap, but it is making me believe he does not intend to follow any of my requested boundaries and I just can’t with SD1 anymore. It is highlighted even more by how good and sweet our lives are without her chaos and drama. How can I make him see my point of view, talking doesn’t seem to be working.
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You can ban her from your
You can ban her from your house, but you can't stop DH from having a relationship with her. He should be free to text her, call her, have dinner with her outside the home. He shouldn't bring her into your home if she is that destructive, and he shouldn't spend joint funds on her. But to say he can't have a relationship at all with her, or even communicate with her without your knowledge/approval goes too far.
You saw him text her. Just say to him, "hey, I saw you texting SD; how are you feeling about that?" Keep it back on him and how he's handling it. Keep it short, sweet, and to the point.
The harder you fight to keep her entirely away, the harder he'll fight not to lose her entirely. Him texting her doesn't impact you, and if it does, that's an issue with your DH, not SD.
Good points
I know this is hard for him and I'm not sure how to navigate this. I think it hit me so wrong and made me angry because after her last episode of chaos and drama (in which she took advantage of my family and our good family friend) my DH asked me not to confront her about the feelings I had. I agreed and it probably was the best choice as she doesn't care about my feelings anyway. However, SD1 starts to reach out a few weeks after these types of incidencts like nothing ever happened. I asked DH if I should answer these texts and he said no, that we would both just wait until she asked why we were both not responding at which time he would handle things. I went along and she has texted me several times. Now on Easter he reaches out to her, ugh it definately makes me look like the bad guy..and it makes me think he will never confront her about the latest issue....and while he obviously doesn't have to ask my permission I do think he needs to be up front with any contact because it does change things in our life. I really wish we could all have a relationship with SD1 but she is so toxic and her particular mental illness brings so much chaos and drama it isn't safe to have her around my daughter or myself. Especially since she is currently taking no meds and seaking no help. It's an awful situation but for now we all need boundaries from her.
Then you say this to him:
Then you say this to him:
"DH, you asked me not to respond to SD because you were going to do the same, then address her when she asked why. Instead, I've seen you reach out to her, which makes me look like the bad guy despite doing it out of respect for you. Making me look like the bad guy is disrespectful to me. I no longer want to be involved with SD. I am blocking her phone number. I will not attend events she is at. She will not come into the home I help pay for. If you want a relationship with her, then it's all on you. But not a dime of my money and not a second of my time will be devoted to her. Do not talk to me about her. Do not talk to her about me. This is the consequence of you breaking my trust. I am washing my hands of your oldest daughter. Good luck."
If she is going to play games, and he is going to play them with her, then you just need to walk away from the game and not play. There isn't anything else you can do at this point. You cannot force your DH to have the same boundaries you do, but you can put up your own boundaries so that her behavior doesn't affect you.
Again, if he changes/acts differently/treats you differently because of his interactions with SD, then that is a problem with your DH. Then you have to decide if you want to live with those changes in him.
You can't force change in him. You can't force him to do anything. The only thing you can control is yourself. If he isn't willing to protect you and your life together, there isn't anything you can do except decide to walk away. You aren't there (yet), but that's the only real option you have if he doesn't respect your boundaries.
Very Helpful!
I'm going to try this!