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Realist's picture

As I sit here to write this my stomach is in knots. I feel so unbelievably out of my depth, so sick to my stomach.

DH and I are nearing what I think is the end of the road. We have discussed separating - and as a last resort (I know we should have gone earlier) we are going to counselling. Of course DH thinks I am the one with issues about his ex. Those of you who know my story know it's untenable - as Anne and BIOMOM have both correctly stated.

I have done SO much soul searching culminating in Sunday (DH and my time together) when SD rang DH on his cell phone using the cell phone we gave her so her mother wouldn't speak to DH. By the time DH called back SD, SD had left for the friend's house she wanted to go to and WTF!!!!! BM picks up SD's phone and starts talking away. Instead of telling BM that it's SD's phone, DH starts listening to BM going on about why she called, what she's doing - OMG! What else can we try to keep this woman from being a constant and unnecessary fixture in our life??????? I know she's SD's mother - but why is it she can't tell us when her daughter has scabies and brings it over, but she chats about everything else?

I tell DH that it upsets me -YET AGAIN - but apparently it's my problem and I need to seek help to get over it. Yes SD still not looking at me - doesn't say hello without prompting etc. I feel depressed about all of this and wonder whether this CRAP is worth it. But i agree to go to counselling.

I went. I unloaded. She turned to me and said - "why isn't your husband here?" "These are his issues. This is a relationship issue". DH has agreed to go to give ME support as I work through my issues. But are they my issues? Is his ex calling and him taking the calls when I'm there and have said that it upsets me not simple enough to stop? Am i missing something?

Out arrangement (becasue every second weekend was not working) is that DH collects SD Friday night and has her all day saturday too. So DH has made plans to go out with some friends this Friday night (but yet he tells me that he insists on keeping the Friday night so that he can have family time with daughter). He has asked me to pick up SD from school (1.5 hours drive away) as he doesn't have anyone else to ask (unlike me apparently who can go out now and again on a friday because my mum can pick my daughter up (my ex lives overseas and I NEVER get a break - he has her one night a week and he wants me to collect his daughter) - the excuses fly - "It's only this once, I organised this when I thought we were through, etc, etc". Stupid me agrees to do it to keep the peace. WTF - I'll bring it up in counselling right?

DH then proceeds to tell me he wants to go back to the every second weekend. OMG - has he been listening???????? - no that's right - he's in bed every sunday morning when i'm making breakfast for the girls and cleaning up. he's also in bed when his daughter's rude to me and when he does surface - he's on hand to unilaterally discipline MY daughter alone. when confronted - "I can't discipline my daughter as much because I only see her infrequently and i want her visits to be nice">

I was going to walk away, but I feel I should try counselling as I believe in it and we need it. How can I go back to a system that doesn't work - where we don't see each other for half of every weekend because the girls are fighting, we have to separate them, I am the domestic slave, SD doesn't respect me....etc etc

I can't go on like this. What are the odds that this counsellor will work? How are we going to get through this mess? Sad

I cannot BELIEVE I HAVE PUT MY CHILD AND I IN THIS SITUATION!

If ANYONE has ANYTHING of vague assistance to offer I would love to hear it now more than ever

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tootsie's picture

Realist.... I’ve seen your postings many times and am aware of your pain. I hate to see you give up on your marriage as much as I hate to see how unhappy you are.

I hesitate to give you advice because, although I’m a BM of 3 kids – I still consider myself a “rookie” and even more of a rookie when it comes to my 4 stepkids. It did get bad for a while with his kids, and then I finally told him that every other weekend was like living at Six Flags over Hell! I told him if he couldn’t get a handle on their behavior that he needed to stay in a motel with them during his periods of possession, and added that although I WAS ready to sacrifice every other weekend for his kids, that I WAS NOT willing to live in HELL every other weekend. (And he knew I was serious because I had pulled up several websites of local motels!) OMG! What a change that prompted!

I think one of the reasons why your husband does this is because he feels like it is acceptable. Your unhappiness is a small price for HIM to pay. It sounds to me like your happiness is not one of his priorities. Remember, we teach people how to treat us. If we don’t express to others what is acceptable and what is not, then people treat us as though there are no boundaries.

Firstly, when his girls are there, it should not be your job to get up and cook and clean up for the girls. Get his butt out of the bed and make him do it. "Darling... your girls are hungry...." .... "Darling... you left a mess in the kitchen..." Don’t let yourself be tempted to clean up after them. Take your kiddos and go to the park, or go play PaintBall or shopping or something. There is no sense in your being the "weekend slave" - particularly when they aren't nice to you and don't even talk to you. Take YOUR kids and get out for a couple of hours. And when when you get back, make not-so-subtle hints that you and your kids had a great time playing arcade games, or shopping or paintball or whatever… BTW, did you know that regular little toy marbles stored overnight in a freezer and enjoined with a sleeping husband the following morning are eye-openers.??..)

What is the ABSOLUTE WORST that could happen if you suddenly refused to fetch the girls - an hour and a half away, or what would happen if you refused to fix breakfast - or clean up after them?

I can tell that you undoubtedly love your family and are in agony over all of this. Most of us can endure excruciating pain - but only you can determine how long you can take it.

Best wishes, and I hope things work out. Keep us posted.

Big hugs,
Tootsie

Anne 8102's picture

If you can get DH to go to counseling WITH you, maybe the counselor can get him to see things from your perspective. Sometimes having an uninterested third party to mediate can help each person see the other's side of things when they are too emotional to see for themselves. So I definitely think you are doing the right thing with the counseling, but I also think DH needs to be there with you and if he doesn't care enough to go, then you have your answer. Hopefully, though, he will go with you and you two can begin to work on your problems together and eventually you can bring the girls in, too, for family counseling. It's really about all of you learning to live together and combining your lives. The way you describe it kind of reminds me of those reality TV shows where they have four totally separate and unrelated strangers come together to try to live in a house together. You guys need to find your common ground. Keep us posted!

~ Anne ~

Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice: Pull down your pants and slide on the ice! -M*A*S*H (Sidney Freedman to the OR staff on dealing with stress)

Realist's picture

and it's me whose first on the eviction list :?

smcpaw's picture

Read my blog entries and you will see we have similar issues. Fortunately for me, the boyfriend's daughter does not come over to our house anymore. Although my boyfriend misses his daughter, he realizes how his exwife has manipulated him for years using his daughter as a pawn and he now sees that his daughter's behavior toward me and him has been approved by her mother. Hopefully, when his daughter grows maturely (she is 16, but acts about 2), she will realize our relationship was doomed from the start. Her mother told her how horrible stepmothers were, that we shouldn't move in together because her daughter would think that living in sin was okay (although her mother and my boyfriend were living together before they got married, etc.). The exwife is at a loss now because she is not able to run both our house and hers and she has lost the power to manipulate my boyfriend because he now sees how things have been. Hang in there, work it out, go to counseling and realize you did this because you loved your DH and once things calm down, hopefully you can enjoy the rest of your lives together. Good luck.

Little Jo's picture

I'm sorry for what you are going through. It is so not healthly and it is high time to change the game plan.

1. Take off your kid gloves, stop taking care of this rude SD. Done. That's insane, you should not be disrespected like that in YOUR own home. Kick his lazy ass out of that bed and don't you dare drive an hour and half again to pick this insulin SD.

2. Drag him into that therapist's office so he can here from himself he is acting like a jack ass.

3. If nothing changes after that or it gets worse, I'm sorry to say, then it is the end of the road.

Stand up for your self. Sounds like you are a very good person who has put everyone before you. Now it's your turn. Your happeness in at stake.

Best wishes and a prayer. Jo

Bonus Wife's picture

OH REalist...I get a knot in my stomach just reading your words. I am in a similar situation. DH defends BM all the time and I am the one with the problem...It is the Holy St. Ex. He just said he has to answer phone when she calls (God forbid it is an emergency) and he is NOT going to cut her off if she needs to chat about something lame. Do I leave now before I get in too deep or hope I can accept his disrespect of my feelings when in realty in a hundred years from now, this will have meant nothing at all to anyone.
How important is it????

Realist's picture

and how true that in 100 years this CRAP will mean nothing to no one! I feel like we could all design some T-shirts for stepmoms- they seriously could become as popular as the simple smiley face. Dawn, you could market them on this site! Smile My personal favourites would involve the three people in my marriage -

"Menage a trois by proxy"

or

"Menage a trois and loving it - NOT!"

or

"Menage a trois without the sex - where's the justice?!"

I'm going maaaaaaad.... Smile

Realist's picture

I've read your blogs and you could just be as scary as me Wink

Seriously though, I really appreciate your support. I cried all night. I'm feeling a bit doubtful about this weekend....

Fingers crossed...

Thanks

happy mom's picture

MOST OF THE STRESS YOU HAVE IS CAUSED BY YOUR HUSBAND'S CONTINUALLY DISOBYEING YOUR WISHES. HAVE YOU SAT YOUR HUSBAND DOWN AND TELL HIM EVERY LITTLE THING THAT UPSETS YOU ABOUT EXWIFE? AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO CHANGE? AND DID YOU REACH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT FOR EACH ONE TOGETHER? EXWIVES WILL ALWAYS BE A PAIN IN THE ASS BUT IT'S YOUR PARTNER THAT HAS TO LIMIT THE CONVERSATION & INFORM YOU OF EVERYTHING. THE MORE YOUR HUSBAND BREAKS YOUR WISHES THE MORE THIS EX IS GONNA BE INVOLVED IN YOUR LIFE. IF BOTH OF YOU CAN'T AGREE ON THINGS AND FOLLOW THROUGH THEN I THINK BRINGING IN A COUNSELOR IS A GOOD IDEA BUT YOUR HUSBAND NEEDS TO BE PRESENT TOO. I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL WHEN YOU FEEL FRUSTRATED WHEN EX CALLS. I TOO FEEL THE SAME WAY JUST HAVING TO READ EX EMAILS ABOUT THE CHILD THEY SHARE TOGETHER. YES IN A SENSE YOU HAVE TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT THERE IS A STEPCHILD INVOLVED & EX WIFE INVOLVED IN YOUR LIFE BUT EX'S CONVERSATION W/YOUR HUSBAND SHOULD ONLY BE LIMITED TO REGARDING THE CHILD AND NOTHING ELSE. GOODLUCK & KEEP US POSTED.

-happy mom

Realist's picture

MOST OF THE STRESS YOU HAVE IS CAUSED BY YOUR HUSBAND'S CONTINUALLY DISOBYEING YOUR WISHES. - totally agree Smile

HAVE YOU SAT YOUR HUSBAND DOWN AND TELL HIM EVERY LITTLE THING THAT UPSETS YOU ABOUT EXWIFE? - Yes - every day - or so it seems Smile

AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO CHANGE? Yep

AND DID YOU REACH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT FOR EACH ONE TOGETHER? - Mmmm well it appears that he agrees but then feels annoyed because he's done me a favour and his life has been made harder!

EXWIVES WILL ALWAYS BE A PAIN IN THE ASS BUT IT'S YOUR PARTNER THAT HAS TO LIMIT THE CONVERSATION & INFORM YOU OF EVERYTHING. - Thank you - music to my hears - can you counsel us Wink

THE MORE YOUR HUSBAND BREAKS YOUR WISHES THE MORE THIS EX IS GONNA BE INVOLVED IN YOUR LIFE. - Oh SOOOOO true

IF BOTH OF YOU CAN'T AGREE ON THINGS AND FOLLOW THROUGH THEN I THINK BRINGING IN A COUNSELOR IS A GOOD IDEA BUT YOUR HUSBAND NEEDS TO BE PRESENT TOO. - yeah he's coming

I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL WHEN YOU FEEL FRUSTRATED WHEN EX CALLS. - thanks so much - I appreciate it

Thanks Happy Mom. I used your message because answering all the questions made me realise that I've been doing all of these things to no avail and it's frustrating the crap out of me. I feel like the nag - but I'm the one bearing HIS cross - HIS ex!

I'll keep you posted

happy mom's picture

WE DO EVERYTHING RIGHT TO INFORM OUR OTHER HALF OF OUR DISLIKES AND EXPECTATIONS BUT YET AT TIMES WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE THE BAD GUY BECAUSE OF CHANGE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. BUT I DON'T REGRET TELLING MY HUSBAND HOW I TRULY FEEL.....---- THAT HE NEEDS TO BE ON MY SIDE, THAT EXWIFE IS INDEED A PAIN IN THE ASS AND THAT IT WAS THE GREATEST THING OF ALL THAT THEY GOT DIVORCED BECAUSE SHE IS EVIL AND A PAIN. AT FIRST HE WAS UNSURE OF WHETHER TO CHANGE ACCORDING TO MY WISHES, AS TIME WENT BY HE REALIZES WHAT I GO THROUGH AND WHAT EX IS REALLY DOING TO US (MOSTLY HIM) DEPRIVING HIS RELATIONSHIP W/HIS SON AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AFTER 7 YRS OF MARRIAGE AND OBSTACLES TO OVERCOME, HE IS NOW VERY SUPPORTIVE AND UNDERSTANDS THAT I'M NOT THE ONE INSANE HERE. THAT EX IS THE ONE THAT CAUSES ALL THE STRESS, USES HER SON AS A WEAPON. SHE HAS NO LIFE AND HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT BRAINWASH HER SON TO HATE US. SS IS 10 YRS OLD, HE IS CHANGING AND HAS HIS OWN OPINION. WE'LL SEE WHERE HE ENDS UP LIVING WHEN HE IS OLD ENOUGH. SORRY I HAD TO RAMBLE ON... THANKS FOR LISTENING.

-happy mom

OldTimer's picture

I forget what I wanted to say! LOL... DAMN IT!

Well, I totally totally totally... how many times can I put totally here... understand how you feel. Believe me, I feel your pain.

I will be honest and tell you that I have this little nagging voice in the back of my head saying to me... will I make it? The divorce rate is high, but drastically higher for second marriages... will I be one of them? Sometimes, I just don't know. Other days, I feel like on top of the world. It's hard work, I think it's harder for step/blended families than first marriages with no step children.

Unfortunately, we have to take it day by day by day. Count our blessings, and press on. It's a thankless job, and a job that only some will master, others will fail, and the majority of us will constantly be adapting to.

Wink StepMom

Man has the intelligence to change his life,
Sometimes, he just fails to use it...

Bonus Wife's picture

Today I am going to try to keep the past in the past....I think when I keep reliving all the times the Ex has crossed her boundaries in my opinion..it's too overwhelming for me. (Her asking if she could join us when we cut our xmas tree down cause she neede one too, offering DH homemade jumbalaya to take home with him, asking her son to tape things for her when he's at our house, the list goes on,and on In fact, maybe if I blog it, I can finally get it out of my head.......) BUt the point is, if I forget that stuff for today..and just deal with the crap that comes up today maybe life will be more bearable. All I know is that the combination of all those thoughts swirling around my head is driving me insane.

I also LOVE LOVE LOVE the TShirt idea. It's exactly how it feels when we are second wives. My brother is a Tshirt printer..I'm getting one made. Nice pretty french script lettering. (I am giving it to DH for Father's Day I think. Actually I will get him a bigomyst TSHIRT cause he has two wives IMO and if he doensn't realize he can't serve two master...then he's back to only having one wife. The answers to avoid this however seems so simple, but they don't get it.
PS We have to give Fearless credit for the Holy St. ex phrase...I have to use it too because it hits the nail on the head.

Bonus Wife's picture

Hey, don't I feel stupid....I always refer to my hubby as a bigomyst but what I really mean is POLYGAMYST (spelling). LOL

Anyway he again said if I dont' "knock it off" "IM" going to ruin our marriage...Hmm - I thought things take two.

Anyway today I am going to try, try, and try again. Maybe I am soo wrong. Maybe she really is nice w/ no motive, and I'm being paranoid???

I was thinking...should I start behaving the same way to her back???For instance, she always seem to be trying to be "friends"..The other day she offered hubby some jumbalaya for us...couple of weeks ago, she found some coupon booklet adn gave that to him. Now, all this is ridiculous to me but maybe I'll send the kids home with magazines for "mom" that i already read. Hubby will see I'm being just as saintly back to her...and viola, problem solved???? I don't know. Good luck getting through the day today with no ex issues ladies. Hugs to all.

Gwen's picture

Fearless, I totally support you and I'm so glad you have found a peaceful way of thinking about things. Good for you and yay! And I'm not trying to rain on anyone's positive parade. Well, people will roll their eyes and think maybe I am. I am always the one drawing the boundary lines. Although, I've implemented lots of positive relationship between the BM and I, but I guess I don't emphasize that here. Maybe I should more.

In any case, as to sending food home, I don't think the Ex sending food home is the same thing as a secretary, boss, sister or cousin sending food home. It's his ex-wife, it's not any of those ladies. I see the boundaries as different. It does matter that she's the Ex. Those are my boundaries and not necessarily everyone's. I wouldn't feel screaming hatred at the Ex for doing it, I would try to recognize that--in some circumstances--it was meant as a kind gesture. (In other circumstances it's not, when coupled with other behaviors, like incessant phone calling, it's a kind of unhealthy continued attachment to the DH--each circumstances is different). However, the kindness of the gesture doesn't make it okay for me--for me, it's not about her intentions. Her intentions do, however, help structure the nature of my response.

In my case, I would calmly and politely let the Ex and DH know that although I appreciate the thoughtfulness of the gesture, it makes me uncomfortable (because I do love to cook for my family, and I think it's something that's very intimate). That's just how I would handle it, and I offer this only because folks who have a similar boundary as I might find it a helpful and constructive way to deal with the situation, as opposed to "stewing" and saying nothing, or engaging in similar behavior. My value set is that if I don't believe in it, I don't believe in it; if it's not right for her it's not right for me.

I do think that having a positive attitude toward the Ex is very healthy and in each of our best interests as SMs and not-first-wives, and in the best interests of the skids. I try very hard to do this. It helps when I think of her as the kids' mom as opposed to the Ex. But she is and always will be the Ex, and to me certain domestic boundaries are important. So are bridges when it comes to true "kid issues". Each family has to sort out their own boundaries and bridges.

Gwen's picture

Fearless, thanks for being so positive and such an inspiration. I am so very happy for you. I am trying to learn from you!! I love following your thinkings and feelings. **BIG HUGS** to you!!!

Gwen's picture

Realist, friend, good luck to you in sorting out your own boundaries and bridges. I really do think that's what it comes down to--and your DH has to be your partner in this, or it just doesn't work. Counseling really helped my DH and I, as did time, and the Ex getting re-married. There are still issues, but it is much better. The question is always whether DH is willing to be a partner and to meet you halfway; counseling may help him see this, over time. Best wishes to you and let us know how it goes.

Bonus Wife's picture

Hi ladies...when hubby mentioned that ex offered him jumbalya (I didn't probe & give him the third degree whether she intended for him to take it home to me or to just go in the house, and have a bowl if he wanted.(she was on her way out and he was going to "the house" to pick up the kids to bring them to us.... But ironically, our neighbor was making some and so he told her..No thanks, our neighbor is making some today too...DUH.. Why couldn't he just say HUH???? like her offering it to us was WEIRD which it was. In any case, I am neither insulted (I hate cooking and his kids know that) nor thankful she was so sweet to offer it to him. MY PROBLEM IS THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE IS COMING FROM and it makes me uneasy....Should I just take the initiatve and sweetly ask her? and explain to her that in my relationship with my ex, not in a million years would I offer him some lasagna that I happened to make and therefore I am confused....My DH has said from day one..she does alot of things he doesn't understand but it never bothers him...Here my ex kissed me on the cheek in front of my DH when his brother died, and my DH flipped. "Why did he kiss you?" blah, blah....I at least knew why he did. I don't know why this ex does anything. WAit a second, I take that back..I DO KNOW WHY...She still loves him and wants to remain in his inner circle. She'd go through hoops for him. Am I jealous of her...I swear to you I am not...Do I think she'd take him back in a minute? Absolutely. Do I think he'd go back. NO. I need to just accept her I think, but when I see her I will have a heart to heart. On paper, I am toughsounding, but in person, I do have a good heart and can try to talk to her about how I feel as a second wife and ask her to please respect our boundaries. I really think she needs to know her boundaries. Or the other answer is like tyra's and just not ask to be privy to their conversations.

LeaveMeAlone's picture

Since you don't know the reasoning for offering the food, if it was just for him, for him and you, or for him to come in and eat it, leave it alone. Why stir up shit? Don't we have enough to deal with without looking for more?
Your husband said no thank you. He explained why he didn't want it. So what? He said NO!!! Isn't that good enough???? So what if he gave an explanation???? SO WHAT???? Because he did not respond how you would have liked you are going to continue with this? Man, he does the right thing, but only half way. Why can't we be satisfied?
Move on. I am sure she is going to do other things you will get pissed about. Its only a matter of time isn't it? I mean if this made you mad, your next bout is right around the corner I'm sure.

Realist's picture

We took ourselves off to counselling. If nothing else it's useful from the point of view that the counsellor has asked DH to really think a bit more about the impact that certain things have on me. For me - I need to accept what I can't change - makes sense

Again though - on the weekend - another classic example - SD who comes over every Friday night and Saturday was told by BM that they would be going out for BM's birthday on Sunday for a breakfast. Half way through Saturday, BM calls DH and tells him that the breakfast is off and can he drop SD at her grandparents instead of BM's as BM is boing out with her boyfriend for the night. The arrangement is that DH drops SD back at BM's and he hates dropping at BM's parents as they ended up with a lot of the items from their split and it upsets him to see it. But of course - lots of communication and nothing resolved by the end of the week and so I get the call from DH - "Can SD just stay with us tonight?"

Of course - I said yes, but it threw my plans out for Sunday while BM had a sleep in! As SD lives over an hour's drive away, there was no way I could go up the coast as planned for the day after lunch. In an effort to appease, DH dropped SD back at BM's at lunch, but then, after driving all the was back he's too exhausted to go Smile You have to laugh. Everything is a bloody hassle!

Iknow it's impossible to never make changes to visitation plans but these two take the cake. The night I told DH not to bring SD over he left her at BM's instead of taking her to a hotel or his parents or something similar and BM has been taking advantage of it ever since by similarly changing plans which put the whole family out. Then there was the time DH got his eyes lasered and didn't get the full information in the consultation and needed full time nursing for 5 days post op and hadn't made contingency plans for SD's visits so calls BM at the last minute to cancel. I can see why she gets annoyed. But there are also lots of times where BM has just called up to ask DH to keep SD longer as she's going away, too drunk, etc, etc to take her back yet.

The counsellor said that DH is not giving enough thought to the impact of his relationship with BM on others - my suggestion was to put in writing that the parties should not change plans unless there is an emergency.

Of course BM has refused to let SD pack her bag and the diary we got her is now at the back of her closet. When DH mentioned these to BM she says "I don't wan't to talk about it. Stop telling me what to do". Look I can see the woman's point. But i think SD is old enough to pack her own bag. DH, stating that the clothes are inappropriate has suggested going back to him buying clothes and washing them after SD leaves. Yes- I remember that. Who washed and ironed them???? ME! He doesn't even pick up his dirty underwear so let's get real about taking on that task again.

At the end of the day, I think this whole dynamic is about acceptance. DH has to accept that BM doesn't parent the way he agrees with. He has to accept that SD is going to wear what we consider to be inappropriate clothing. He has to accept that the standard of living SD has with BM is different and so is the parenting. To not accept leads to utter frustration and exhaustion.

I am leaning towards - stuff the diary, stuff the clothes, stuff it if SD gets ferried off to grandparents she doesn't like - these are things over which we have no control. What are we going to do, take SD every time BM decides to send her to the grandparents for the weekend? These plans are in the control of BM and you can't police them. I don't think it works to pointlessly keep trying to change what isn't going to change.

Do others agree? Has anyone come to similar resignation?

Anne 8102's picture

Realist, you sound like a totally different person than in previous posts! You sound like you're finding your way to happiness and acceptance... or at least something that resembles them! Wink

Okay, maybe you haven't reached utopia yet, but doesn't it help a lot to have your counsellor validate your feelings in front of your husband, to tell him that it's not entirely YOUR problem? That's great! He might never agree, but didn't that give you a little satisfaction, if nothing else?!

I totally agree with you about finding a way to accept what you cannot change, but I wouldn't necessarily call it resignation or "settling" or anything with a negative connotation. Try to think of it in a more positive light, as in letting go of the unpleasant things you can't control. If it's something you can change, then do it! If you can't change it, then accept that, but don't let it have the power to upset you. Try to think in terms of how important is this issue in the grand scheme of things. If it turns out not to be that big of an issue, let it go.

One thing my husband and I have been doing recently that's really helped us a lot is we ask ourselves and each other one very important question in the heat of every battle... how important is this in the grand scheme of things? You would be surprised at how many times it turns out to be something that really isn't worth fighting over. And sometimes, it might mean more to one person than it does to the other, which can make it a lot easier to take turns letting each other "win." Plus, if you can weed out those non-issues or minor issues, then it gives you more energy and enthusiasm to tackle the weightier issues. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I'm glad you had a good counselling session and I hope you continue to make progress. I hope you find your happiness WITH your husband, rather than without, if that's what you want. We're here for you and we're pulling for you!

~ Anne ~

Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice: Pull down your pants and slide on the ice! -M*A*S*H (Sidney Freedman to the OR staff on dealing with stress)

Bonus Wife's picture

Leave me alone, I like your screen name....To be honest, that is all I wish the exwife would do...JUST LEAVE US ALONE. Get her c.s., call DH when you need to ABOUT The kids..and leave us alone....no giving us coupons for things, no food offering, and the list goes on and on. You are right--- there's always something right around the corner and I too ask myself. "How important is it?" Usually not at all!! she's just a splinter that will forever be there...

LeaveMeAlone's picture

comfort in knowing that the smaller and irritating things don't bother me as much anymore. And since I stopped bitching about them, she stopped doing them. I too wish she would cash her check and take a nice long walk off a very short pier.

The less I react to her ignorance and stupidity the less stupid she becomes. She makes an ass out of herself, hey, who am I to stop her?
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