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EvilAngel's picture

This morning out of nowhere, Thunderfoot asks me, "Do special education teachers make more money than regular teachers?" I said that I didn't think so but I wasn't sure. Then I asked why. I was assuming maybe she had chosen this as a new career choice...albeit a BAD one for her. She said, "Well there are special education students mixed in with the regular students in my fourth period and we always have to repeat things over and over because they don't get it." Hmmmmmm...I didn't think that schools mixed special education children with those that don't require it. Am I wrong about this?

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B22S22's picture

Some schools do, just so the SE kids aren't totally isolated. I can't remember what the proper term is, mainstreaming perhaps? I know some of the schools around where I live do.

EvilAngel's picture

I just didn't know if maybe there was something that I should know about Thunderfoot or not. It's a singing class though so I could see them doing that I suppose.

Monchichi's picture

Remedial teachers as we refer to them here are paid almost double a normal teachers salary. Bridging children/ classes are not mixed with general classes. Same as gifted/ high intellect teaching is not done with normal classes or bridging classes. However I am not in the States Smile

EvilAngel's picture

I have friends that are teachers but of course I don't ask them about their salaries. I thought they possibly did make more (if they were SE teachers)...but was unsure.

SM with BM from hell's picture

It's called inclusion, and yes, some schools do this. For certain things the special educator will "push in" the class and help a group of children at a time and other times they will "pull out" certain students. It depends on how your school system is set up.

Monchichi's picture

tommar, spectrum children, dyslexic and so forth are not even taught in mainstreams schools here (Not even HFA/ aspies). They are referred to remedial schools. ADHD/ ADD are handled in bridging classes in private schools here as long as the children are on Ritalin or equivalent generic. Not in our government schools. I am stunned at how different it is in our countries.

Monchichi's picture

US$400-600 per month excluding uniforms, stationary, equipment, therapists and lunches. OT is approximately US$300 per month, Speech is US$125 per month and PT is US$125 per month. These are not government subsidized unless we are unemployed or very low income. You have to queue at government centers where you lose the entire day from work. We can claim back in our tax returns if not on medical aid or out of medical aid savings. It works out to approximately US$2000 per annum refund out of a total out of pocket spend of US$11,400.

SS has gotten worse being in a remedial school. His aggression started after 1 term in this school as well as due to other reasons. Our government schools cannot handle remedial children, there are between 30 and 60 children per class. You can find government funded remedial schools they are too far for us to get to. So private it is.

Monchichi's picture

Sally you forgot they launched iPad in schools instead of giving text books. Except we have no electricity to charge them. There is no Wi-Fi and these children's parents most definitely cannot afford 3g or Wi-Fi in locations. They don't have desks or actual toilets BUT they have iPads which these children will sell for food as that is more important to them logically. Africa is a very special place.

EvilAngel's picture

If she could quit drawing Invader Zim long enough...she might learn something. Oh excuse me...she's created her own now and calls it Invader Thunderfoot. SMDH

EvilAngel's picture

http://imgur.com/o8epCyx

This is the shit she draws all day. I will probably get my ass handed to me and everyone tell me this is great...maybe not. I have had some people tell me I am just an asshole because this isn't what I consider art. This is NOT original...this is a cartoon character that used to be on Nick.

She has downloaded some art program on the computer...she just draws what you see here OVER and OVER!!!

EvilAngel's picture

I am SO glad someone thinks the same as me on that! DH and her gparents think she is "quite the little artist"! No...she's not. I can't even pretend to like that stupid shit anymore. It's the same thing over and over. She has an "original" cartoon that she made up but I think it's crap too.

EvilAngel's picture

I hate when she brings a "new" drawing to show Daddyyyyy! He always looks at me like I should be so excited about it. And of course he always says, "Great job baby! That is awesome. I really like the way you blah blah blah." The way you what? Made it look like EVERY OTHER picture you show us? Yup...that IS awesome!

mommy0104's picture

I don't know about where you live, but where I live it is allowed to mix special education students with the other students. My high school did it so that the special education students would have interaction with all of the other kids at school and not just the other special education students..they didn't want the special education students to feel different or left out. They didn't expect a special education student to learn at the same pace as the other students, but it was more about social interaction. And from what I remember, it was allowed as long as it didn't cause a disruption to the class, and it usually didn't. Sometimes, I think it may depend on the level of the student. For example, there were some special education students who were only mildly challenged and then there were a few who couldn't even talk or walk. I guess the rules vary from school to school.

ChiefGrownup's picture

The goal is to mainstream them as much as possible. They learn from peers in a way they can't learn from teachers. The thing they learn is social skills. All kids learn social skills from peers. But putting special ed kids all together isolates them from kids who have instinctive abilities they don't have such as to look people in the face when conversing or TOM (theory or mind).

The non neuro challenged kids benefit from "mentoring" because their brains grow from explaining things and other skills such as patience and ease with diversity.

The classmates in my ss13's school benefit from him being in regular class because he's a wizard at math. The kids want to be in his math group so he can get the answers right and they either get the answers from him or, when teach supervises closely, at least they learn it from him.