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BSgoinon's picture

I know everyone's first response is to go to court. Trust me, I am pushing DH to do it TODAY. But... let's say for sake of needing some real advice here that's just not an option for TODAY. And I need to know what to do for TODAY.

BM's mom has been pushing to see SS this week. We took this opportunity to have a conversation with SS day before yesterday. We told him that at this point we have informed BM that she isn't allowed to see him until she "gets the help she needs". He stops us and says "I'm not stupid, I know what she is up to". So DH says, we figured, and that's good so I don't even have to tell you, you already know. We talked about that for a few minutes and SS says he agrees that she needs to get help and he doesn't want to see her until she is better. No one mentioned the actual words "DRUGS", it was just understood. He doesn't trust her. DH told him one of our fears is that she will not be "in her right mind" when she has him, and she will try to take him and run. SS says he is smarter and stronger than her and he would never let that happen, but he doesn't want to be with her right now anyway. (smart kid) He doesn't even want to hang out with his grandma (her mom) unless his uncle is with them because "he is the only one that uses his brain". (REALLY smart kid).

Then DH tells him that we will never force him to spend time with people if he is not comfortable. That includes returning your moms calls and texts. We won't FORCE you to do it and we understand if you are mad at her, but don't feel like if you respond to her that you are going to get in trouble. He says that he doesn't want to talk to her now, he isn't mad at her, it just sucks that she can't get herself together. Then he says she has been blowing up my phone and it's driving me crazy. Ugh.

So, BM attempts several times to text and call SS yesterday. From texting from different numbers "hi SS, it's MOM". She even text him from METHMAN'S email address. He HATES that guy. I can't believe she did that. It says his name in the email address. SS was visibly upset when that one came through. He never responded to any of it. We were watching TV, just the 3 of us. Girls were at their dads. SS's phone rings. Strange number. He looks at it, and puts it back down. 10 minutes later, it rings again, NO CALLER ID. Usually when he gets weird calls he will ask me to answer it. ALWAYS. He looked at me and I said do you want me to answer it, he said NO, it's my mom. She is trying to be sneaky. A few minutes later DH's phone rings. It's BM from a strange number. He says it's not a good time. She tells him she needs to talk to him, he says not now. And hangs up. SS knew who it was.

So, now... I want to tell her to leave him alone. If he wanted to talk to her he would have answered when she was contacting him from her number. Don't try to TRICK your kid in to talking to you. He is WAY smarter than you, and it won't work. DH says to give it a few days, if she keeps it up then we say something. It's been going on for a week. We have already told her she can't see him... is it wrong to tell her to just LEAVE HIM ALONE?? She is making it worse. He doesn't want to think about her right now.

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iluvcheese's picture

Block the numbers, aside from her personal number. Make a list of all calls, times & numbers, if you ever go to court. It is for this child's best interest, really for everyone's, that you all go to court. I FULLY comprehend trying to get a DH to go to court that isn't ready to yet, I don't know if it's fear of things not going their way or what. It really annoys me. The only thing I can think to do, besides call the cops & say you think your family is being harrassed by a drug addict, is to block the numbers. Save & document everything, including that email.

BSgoinon's picture

I did do that this morning. Blocked the numbers from all of our phones. Except for her current known cell number. And the email address that she used.

I am just so exhausted of all of this. SS doesn't want it. So we don't want it for him. She needs HELP.

iluvcheese's picture

Maybe DH should have a conversation with her next time saying something along the lines of: Please stop calling any of us from different numbers. Please stop calling, texting, emailing numerous times a day. Please stop with the NEED to talk unless a legitimate emergency. Don't call or email from dealers numbers or emails, what would they think of you doing that? Your son doesn't want to talk & needs some space. He will call & talk when ready, he'd like to see you clean & speak to you clean. If you want to try once a day, fine. However the multiple times a day are starting to make us feel harrassed & it's unacceptable. Please get help, your behavior is becoming increasingly erratic & you clearly aren't aware.

iluvcheese's picture

Now that I think about it, what I suggested is way too much info for a high person to process:(. Maybe stop calling so frequently, just once a day, & save I NEED to talk for actual emergencies.

WalkOnBy's picture

there is no need to tell someone to stop calling/texting/talking to you.

You simply stop giving them access to you.

Don't want to talk to someone? don't answer them Smile

BSgoinon's picture

Except when it comes to protecting our 12 year old kid that doesn't know how to handle these adult situations all of the time. He does pretty good. But she is taking it too far.

BethAnne's picture

I seem to recall that you can block all numbers on a phone that are not in the contacts. You could call your phone provider for some advice or I think that AT&T have user guides on most phones on their website that might help. Other than that I don't know what to suggest

misSTEP's picture

For today, follow SS's lead. No contact. No visits.

For the future, has your DH ever considered that going to court might finally trigger her "rock bottom" and make her get some help for real?

BSgoinon's picture

That is the conversation I had with him this morning. IF she has any motivation to get clean, that is SS. As long as she is still able to contact him and he tells her every once in a while that he loves her, then she is still a "good mom" in her own mind. We need to take that away from her to allow it to sink in that EVEN HER SON IS DISAPPOINTED IN HER. And along with that, SS shouldn't have to deal with this. It's sad.

justanothergurlNJ's picture

No she shouldn't have to avoid calls from his Mom. Change his number!

BSgoinon's picture

Since she is still able to call DH's phone, there is nothing saying we have to allow her access to his cell phone... so no consequences. I am struggling with the moral aspect of it. I don't want to keep him from at least being able to TALK to his mom, but she is so very toxic. And he has said he doesn't want to now. I just don't want to keep him from being able to if he decides he wants to. Tough position.

WalkOnBy's picture

If he comes to you and tells you he wants to talk to her, you will have him call her. You're not "keeping" him from talking to her.

He doesn't want to now. When he's ready, you will help him get in touch with her.

ksmom14's picture

I agree with others, give him the option to change his number. That way he doesn't have to avoid her calls at all, but he will still know her number, so he can always call her/text her if he wants to and is ready.

He knows what's going on so just say "SS we can change your number if you want, that way she wouldn't be able to constantly call you, you can call/text her from your number if you're ready for her to start contacting you again, or always from DH or my phone if you just want to talk, but don't want her to be contacting you directly."

justanothergurlNJ's picture

Talk to SS he seems to be smart and wise beyond his years, ask him does he want to change his # so he doesn't have to avoid calls and if decides sometime down the road he wants to speak with his Mom he is more then welcome to call from your or dh's phone or a land line assuming you have one!

WalkOnBy's picture

Change his phone number. When she blows up your phone or DH's phone, do not answer. At all. EVER. This way she still has an avenue BUT can't say she "couldn't get ahold" of SS.

Convince your husband to go to court.

Follow SS's lead here.

Convince your husband to go to court.

Hang in there, BS. It's gonna get a lot shittier before it gets better.

IF you allow SS to have contact with BM's parents, make sure there is NO access to BM when they have SS.

Tuff Noogies's picture

^^^ every word of this.

(((hugs))) to you and ss.

BSgoinon's picture

Her dad and stepmom I don't worry about. He is actually going to stay with them tomorrow night.

It's her mom that I don't trust. And neither does he apparently. He doesn't want to be alone with her. She says she doesn't have any contact with BM, then I see her post on BM's FB page.

simifan's picture

I agree with the others. Change his phone number. BM can contact him through DH.

Cooooookies's picture

I agree, change SS's number, that way he doesn't have to deal with this adult situation. Let your DH handle this. Let her blow up DH's phone and he can tell her that until she's clean, she cannot contact SS. When she's clean and ready, have her call your DH. This way, she is not completely cut off, she does have a contact number. It will just stop sucking for the poor kid still caught in the middle of his addict "mom".