Don't want to be around stepkids anymore
So DH and I have been together for three years...his kids are now 15 and 20. I have two kids...17 and 20.
Our families have never blended..I would have to say partial blame is ours in trying to rush things in the beginning...our motto was "us presenting a united front" when it came to things dealing with each other's children...and the rest is due to both ex's sabotaging any attempt on our part to form any sort of relationship with each other's kids. At the moment neither of our children live with us. BM demanded full custody of the SKs from the beginning and DH has never challenged BM for custody or living arrangements..willing to accept that the kids were old enough to choose where they wanted to live. Child support is based on income...BM makes more than DH and I combined.
So from my point of view here are my issues (mainly with the 20 year old)
1. I get that child support has to be paid... DH should be and is a part of their lives..from giving rides to attending events..whatever. We always made a point in inviting them to join us when hiking, camping, going for drives etc. BM makes every decision for the kids...from school trips costing thousands of dollars to what cloths they wear (and it's not appropriate as far as I'm concerned), which again is fine...but she also expects us to pay extra. She never goes to court over it but always has a dig to make about me "wearing the pants and controlling the purse strings" and not providing for the SDs. So here is where the issue comes in as an example...my 20 year old is working..living on her own...paying her own bills. His 20 year old is living with BM, driving BM car, working, and expects DH to pay for her bills. After discussion we decided that because the two were working and not in school they could pay their own bills. another example...I couldn't afford a tutor for my kid but we were expected to pay for one for his..again we said no. SD20 flunked out of University (of which we were paying half of her tuition) and we said that her next attempt will have to be funded through loans...again the bad guys. Every thing SD said to her father is an exact repeat of what BM said. There are many more examples of this.
2. When we first got engaged last September SD20 threw a fit because "according to facebook" he asked me at 4:30 PM and he didn't tell them until 8 PM. And when she tried to look at my page I had her blocked. She told her father that she didn't like me and would never like me. She didn't care if he got married just as long as it wasn't to me. Ok...I get that she is acting out as a child...but she was not..she was 19. She didn't live with us..has no intention on living with us. They attended the wedding because most of the family was there...but it was very fake..It really bothered me when she said that to her father because to me if she really felt that way..why pretend to be happy for us?
3. When we all do go somewhere together I get ignored. They do not speak to me unless I speak first..do not look me in the face..basically I'm non existent. Neither SK has ever made a step in forming any sort of relationship with me. DH doesn't want to see it.
4. I am very uncomfortable talking around them because I know that everything we say and do goes right back to BM. Should I care? Probably not....but I cannot relax if I know that everything I buy or say or plan is being reported. I would just prefer to not be around that drama and stress. And this I think is the biggest issue for me...
In the beginning I was upset with their attitudes because I really did try with them. But nothing I did was ever good enough. I'm at the point now where I feel better when I'm not around them. It's hard because DH's family is very close and he does't understand or don't want to see how his kids act toward me.
I'm trying to avoid situations where I have to be around them..but I really don't want to hurt DH. At this point in time I'm ok with him doing things with his kids without me but he doesn't see it the same way.
Any ideas on how I can gently create distance without hurting DH? He is very loving toward me and I would never want to put him in a position where he feels that he has to choose between me or his kids.
Sam
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You can write the 20 year old
You can write the 20 year old off. She's an adult not living in your home. Be pleasant if your paths cross but don't ever plan anything to see her. And don't be upset if your DH feels the same way about your 20 year old.
The 15 year old as a minor is someone who is going to at least be visiting in your home. Again be pleasant and civil - but you are not her mother nor should you be expected to parent her. You are under no obligation to entertain her - just do not ever be rude or mean. Indifference is your goal. You have no expectations as to her and she should have none from you.
As for the 15 year old repeating stuff (you should not be around the 20 year old enough to worry about that) - just make up some really good stories for her to carry back.
Don't waste your time trying to get your DH to "see your side". These are his children and he will never be able to see them with out a parent's prejudice. Don't try to justify "why" you can't stand his children. Just be firm about NOT spending your time with them.
My DH will attempt to defend his son if I say I don't want to spend time with him because he's a raging ahole. I just firmly decline to spend anytime with the ahole. Done deal. No reasons given for DH to try to refute.
The kids are not little
The kids are not little little, 4,5--even 10 for that matter. One is an adult and one in High School.
They should be cordial to you as well as YOU should be cordial to them. If no one can seem to muster up a smile and How are you, how's your family doing (extended family etc.) Well, then it will be everyone's loss.
I will put it to you this way and it is from my personal perspective AS a divorced Mom years ago with kids who's ex husband remarried.
When the kids told me the first thing out of my mouth was YOU better be kind, and respectful to her. YES I said YOU BETTER your damn right I did.
I totally, totally find fault with an ex who does NOT tell their kids to put their best foot forward, act appropriate, mannerly and pleasant the way Dad and I raised you.
I also don't buy anymore 'its about their feelings about the divorce" BULL SHIT. My parents divorced and I would NEVER have treated Lady Friends of my dad with anything other than kindness and respect.
I call BS for any child who treats anyone like dirt post divorce.
JMO
I would hang in there but DH should not try to make you do something that is hurtful especially IF they are acting out in plain sight, right in front of you.
NO ONE should be paying child
NO ONE should be paying child support for a 20 year old.
YOU get to decide how an adult treats you and if you don't want to be around an obnoxious adult, YOU don't have to
I say follow notasm's advice
Love this comment by Sue. It
Love this comment by Sue. It is absolutely true. I have skids who are 19stb20, 18, and 16. I get along with them well, for the most part...and I do feel like my DH has drastically lowered his expectations in some ways and has tried to understand my position as a childless SM. He does...but I still don't feel like he has much empathy for me...he's still a little disappointed that I don't see the skids as my own kids, that I don't love them as my own. I've tried to get his understanding in every way I can...logic, analogies, facts, stories/examples. Nothing works. In his mind, I know, it's my deficiency when it comes to his kids...
Thanks everyone for the
Thanks everyone for the support and opinions! It certainly makes things easier to deal with knowing that there are others who have been through the same.